We were watching it in a sexual education class, all females and we had an open discussion about the movie when it was over. Most of us said 'what did she expect to happen'?
It was a disaster waiting to happen.
1.) house party with kids 2.) alcohol 3.) no parents 4.) drugs
Those things rarely end well. I have yet to go to a party where a girl hasn't been assaulted, somewhere-somehow.
She made the situation worst by
1.) secluding herself with a guy she barely knew 2.) not paying attention to her surroundings 3.) not telling her friends where she was going
She may have been getting out of 8th grade but me and my friends had common sense and street smarts even then, thanks to our parents.
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True, she didn't put herself in the best situation but most people around that age don't expect those things to happen to them. And even if she did put herself in a situation like that, no one deserves to be raped
Your classmates sure sound arrogant for teens. It pisses me off how judgemental some nasty females are of other girls that get hurt. Yeah, she made bad choices; sometimes that does lead to bad consequences, a "duh" factor. The point of the story isn't to focus on her poor judgement and point fingers; we all make bad choices, especially at that age, she was just a young kid and there with friends she trusted. The point was how she handled it, how her pain and strength went in the following year. Those kids need to get with the program.
of course, we must ignore how horrible the boys were to Melinda in the movie, and can be IRL, blaming the victim because "bro solidarity" or whatever stupid reason.
It's awful wording, but perhaps they meant the general naivete young kids have about parties with booze.
Certainly it wasn't smart of her to behave the way she did, but I don't think girls should have to expect men to be violent with them.
She was naive and young and irresponsible, but that doesn't mean she was in some way responsible for getting raped or mean that she doesn't have a right to be upset with Andy - he chose to rape her, he was 100% responsible, she was dumb but he broke the law (and broke the laws of basic human decency).
I have yet to go to a party where a girl hasn't been assaulted, somewhere-somehow.
That's just sad and awful.
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To expand upon thenYES's point, I think the OP is extremely sad and depressing, and confirms fears that the younger generation have not become less ignorant by being born in generally more enlightened times.
Although you could certainly say that Melinda was unwise, you absolutely cannot infer any blame in her direction. If we were talking about stabbings, there is no way on earth somebody would suggest that a young man should expect to get stabbed if he goes to a particular party.
As with all crimes, blame goes to the perpetrator. It ought to be offensive to men to suggest that sexual assault is an inevitability of some kind. Indeed, it is in no way inevitable and to suggest that it should be seen as such is to minimise the severity of the crime and to diminish the criminal responsibility that the perpetrator has.
Worse, to suggest that Melinda should have expected to be raped by getting in the back of a car with a boy, is to suggest that boys/men can be expected to demand full and total sexual access to a girl just because she's agreed to make out with him.
It's all pretty disgusting. The fact that sexual assault is such a commonplace event at parties these days indicates that there is something deeply wrong with the boys doing that, not with the girls to whom it is done.
I'm a guy who's done and said some pretty offensive things to women, but even I know this is a load of crap. It was her fault because I guy could not control his urges and act with moral? GTFO of here! Imagination if what you say can be used as an excuse in court. They would have more room in prison for murders, I guess.
A woman gets sexually assaulted by a man, and yet it's her fault?
Makes absolutely no sense. A girl should be able to wear what she wants, do what she wants, without having a fear of rape. I'm not saying all men are pigs and could all potentially be rapists, but something in society needs to change where we learn that this is not okay for a man to do NOT blame the victim.
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It's sad, but not stupid. It's far smarter to teach people to be prepared to avoid/resist/escape rape than just say "don't rape". Unfortunately there will always be bad men out there, but that doesn't have to mean that their will always be rape victims.
We teach people not to set themselves on fire, but we still teach them stop-drop-and roll.
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Very true. It is sad, but that's society. I do believe though that teaching people to defend themselves from rape could be more effective than teaching people not to rape.
In much the same way that we don't actively teach people not to become murderers, we simply raise them as best we can. We do this because we accept that violence can happen in the world through consequences beyond individual choice.
Sadly, feminists have spent decades teaching the ludicrous narrative that men choose to be rapists. No, they don't. Like all complex things, it is a combination of countless factors.
We teach people not to steal but when you leave the house, you don't leave all the doors and windows open. Why not? Because life isn't always straight forward.