I hated it. Here's why.


Before we all jump to the "technical brilliance" of this and the "that's how Korea was back then" that, allow me to say why this film irked me to no end. First off, it was LONG! And for that long, I wanted something real good out of it.

The main characters had no discernable depth. Park: irascible, stupid even in his pompus belief of his clairvoyance in picking out the guilty, was constantly wrong through most of the film. His methods were coercive, brutal, unintelligent and at time, down-right superstitious. OK. So I don't care for this character.

Next, Jo. The high-kick side-kick. First, from a realistic film standpoint, his kicks are a bit over the top. It looks more like a fantasy Matrix kick than how cops actually beat people up. But I'll put that aside. He is at least consistent. He is hot-tempered, do as Park tells him, and a single-dimensioned side-kick. He's fine. But I don't care for him either, that's the point.

Next, Suh, the cop from Seoul. From the special feature, I learned that he had a personal vendetta to gripe with, which would have made his character a lot more interesting had that aspect been made clear in the film. The film, as presented, did not mention it. OK, so again, I hoped he was the voice of reason. And for a long time, he was. I was happy with that, all the way till the end, he suddenly flips a switch, and decides to ignore DNA lab test result and shoot the guy. Now, if the film had made it clear that this last suspect was indeed the killer, then fine, Suh is in the right. But the Film NEVER made that clear, which I could only draw the conclusion that Suh is acting immorally. Despite pressure, right is right, and you can't kill someone before you are sure they are indeed a murderer. So again, I don't care for Suh.

Chief police. He knew very well the operation of Park and Jo. I mean, that was pretty much implied when he talked about how the reporters are always crowding around and why so many protesters come around. So, the chief is just as backwards as Park and Jo. While I give him credit for reprimanding Jo in a later juncture of the film, he is by no means a character with the credibilitiy to be a voice of reason.

So, you see the problem here? There's no one character for you to hang onto. Perhaps this is the American in me talking, but when I watch a film, especially a long one, I want to empathize, sympathize and like at least one of the protagonists. Here, I've got nothing. This leads to the point, what the heck is the point of the film? To tell me how corrupt that society was and that's why they couldn't catch the serial killer? Or, is the film attempting to be a Mockumentary? No is the answer to both.

I've learned in the 2nd grade to not write something unless you've got a point. Not just a bunch of facts. Even documentaries have points. Here, i've got nothing, except 3 hours lost. This film was utterly unenjoyable, dissatisfying for me. I will say this much, I know I am able to be this brutal and harsh in my review of the film because I am not a Korean, so I do not have all these nostalgic links to the subtler points to the film. But what is a film? It's a story with a point. That's the basis. Here we are just presented with a bunch of facts, some awkwardly acted, and overall, dissatisfying.

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Your point about the characters are valid ones, however, your point on there being a meaning to the story is, in my opinion, not a valid one.

There was quite a lot of points raised in this film, it all depends one which one you took if any. To me, there was 2 stark points, firstly that murders do not all get solved. Second, murders look like you and me, in the words of the girl - plain. Detective Park said at the start of the film that he can tell a criminal from a normal person, this sort of belief is something most of us hold onto and is one that the media amplifies. In the media, the picture of a serial killer is normally one which displays a deviant man, not part of society and therefore not wanted by society. However, there is no stereotypical killer physical attributes.

I would also like to raise the point on the fact that you did not like the ending. It is true that the ending must have disappointed many and it is certainly no ending to match Se7en, but with all things it is the journey that counts and the journey needs no point or points to be enjoyable. For all of our endings are death and that does not stop us from living a good life.

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"I've learned in the 2nd grade to not write something unless you've got a point. Not just a bunch of facts. Even documentaries have points. Here, i've got nothing, except 3 hours lost."

UNLESS YOU HAVE A POINT?

so you mean you totally missed the point of this movie? Then you are truely ignorant!!!!!! Watch it a few more times and it might eventually get through your thick skull!!!!!! (im not gonna bother explaining it to you)

JUST A BUNCH OF FACT?

This movie had several layers, you seem to miss them completely.

There was also way more depth to the characters, yes they where all tragically flawed, but in their own ways they tried reallly hard to solve this case. The frustration with the DNA results is understandable, he has just seen a little girls corpse raped with a spoon, he thought he had the bad guy, he just doesnt wanna accept it. He blames himself for her death because he let the guy get away from him. It is to much for him to handle all at the same day. (which i think is quite realistic) Are you saying you want super people/ HEROS, to set example for you? Then watch more hollywood stuff, its full of that (sometimes enjoyable even). However, dont argue that all movies should have a character like that because it is ignorant.

The ending is brilliant, because it shows his incompetence, but also confirmes that the killer could have been anyone, there was no way to tell who he was, he was just a normal guy. It is a prefect anti climax.

EVEN DOCUMENTARIES HAVE POINTS

This is a big problem with american tv docu's, they all have to make this huge point at the end that makes you "LEARN" something, or whatever. I used to be able to watch docu's just to relax and see stuff i normally wouldnt, without there being some retarded point at the end, some viewpoint from the director about how i should live my *beep* life, or how the world should be or all that crap. Hell, you cant even watch a nature docu anymore without getting political remarks and global warming all mixed into it!!!!! THIS IS NOT NORMAL, AND NO IT DOESNT HAVE TO BE LIKE THAT. You can make a perfectly enjoyable documentary wihout making any stupid point!!!!!!!!

sorry for my frustration, but the ignorance is deafening. i had to do something.

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Imo this is the second best film to come out of Korea (after Oldboy), and it's interesting that you point out that the characters lacked depth when I felt the opposite. Detective Park was the best with all his shaman stuff and ridiculous investigation method. The comical scenes helped carry the movie and I felt the characters were really good, as opposed to so, so many other movies.

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3 hours lost ???

OK, I'm just copy paste it in here:
Runtime : Argentina:128 min | Canada:129 min (Toronto International Film Festival) | Germany:127 min (Filmfest Hamburg) | South Korea:130 min | USA:132 min

3 Hours lost is meant 180 minutes, from the runtime information given, the longest is 132 minutes. So where did the remain your 48 minutes went ?
Oh I got it, you spend the remain 48 minutes for making this topic. Sorry how silly I am for realize it just now. lol.

You've got sympathize on no character ?
Well I got for those two main cops...

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I'd hate to be you, mate.

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I liked the film for the reason you seem to not like it. I like how there is no single lead actor and that onus keeps shifting. I didn't think it was long, time passed quickly, saw it on netflix last night. 8/10. Nothing to hate. What are you talking about?

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I´m sorry, but.... I like it...!!!

Oscar from Rosario City
Argentina

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Well i just saw it and i'm kind of torned. It's like i get no closure after watching this.

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"Perhaps this is the American in me talking..."

Open up your eyes for things a bit more un-American and you'll probably understand a bit more. At least you outlined why don't like it but your reasons for hating the movie are superficial that you should stick to all-well-explained-in-the-end American movies until your graduate.

Oh, I'm not Korean.

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As Martin Scorsese said about Raging Bull, "You're not supposed to like the characters".

The point is that sometimes the truth can't be known. And that in a government of brutality, everyone suffers.

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