Saw Departed first?


I saw the departed in theaters, and thought it rocked. Some buddies and I just watched Infernal affairs the other night. I thought it was a cool flick, what struck me the most was how many scenes Scorsese kept near-identical in the adaption. Anyway... did anyone else feel like seeing the Departed first made IA a little less good...

You would know all the plot twists, you know whats going to happen, etc. Also... I think Scorsese definitely spent more time on character and setting (Boston) development). I think I transfered a lot of these pre-conceptions and such to IA, since they really fast forward a lot of that. (IA does about 30 minutes of the Departed in 10 minutes).

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infernal affairs is better. the acting of the two main characters is beleivable. departed is awesome but not better than infernal. the ending of departed is better as matt damon tries to trade terms with leo.

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"Anyway... did anyone else feel like seeing the Departed first made IA a little less good... You would know all the plot twists, you know whats going to happen, etc."

I saw Infernal Affairs first and the same thing happened to The Departed. That's why I fcking HATE The Departed.


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IA trilogy was excellent..if u like Triad movies..you need to watch Jiang Hu or century of the Dragon. Even the "Young and Dangerious" library is excellent

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Jiang Hu as in the 2004 one with Andy Lau and Jackie Cheung? If that's the one then I liked it but wasn't sure if I'd understood the ending.

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Infernal Affairs is better the emotion and character development is far more heartfelt. The ending is better too, 4 ppl at the elevator was a bad idea for The Departed. Eric Cheung was just as good as Jack N. The original suspense and simple flair of Infernal Affairs is just better than the Departed. Plus departed is far more confusing than infernal affairs and not cool confusing but a lost child confusing and never really gains the structure IA gains. Though The Departed is still a good movie, IA is definitely better.

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I saw IA first, really enjoyed it, slightly disapointed by The Departed in comparison, so many scenes in TD looked exactly the same as IA, which just reminded me of IA. IA is cool!

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I watched The Departed first and thought it was fantastic. I loved the pacing, the complicated plot (so few 'big' films have that and manage to keep it interesting...) and I was actually shocked that Leonardo Di Caprio managed to act! Not only that, he really won my sympathy.

A bit later I got hold of all 3 Infernal Affairs films and watched them in one go. I thought they were absolutely fantastic, though I wasn't really thinking about The Departed when I watched them. I just took them as they came, especially since they were chock full of my favourite Hong Kong actors.

Then I bought The Departed, intending to compare them. I rewatched it... and hated it. Everything jarred, I felt that the best scenes were all copied and the bits that had been changed seemed unecessary. It still had a good script - and I stand by Di Caprio's acting - but everything else seemed wrong. It felt like an insult to the original and the fact that Scorsese had got so much praise over work he had mostly copied seemed unjust.

HOWEVER: Since then I have rewatched all four movies several times over (I have a mini obsession at the moment) and each time I watch it I find my fondness for The Departed returning. It IS a good movie, remake or not. And in some ways I think it's better viewed as the fourth segment in a set of movies, rather than as a competitor. Any true fans of either The Departed or Infernal Affairs should really own all 4 movies. They do actually compliment each other partly because they revolved around the same central plot whilst focusing on different themes.

I view Infernal Affairs as a movie about character (the focus on the characters and relationship between Yan and Ming is central, even after the end of the first movie). The Departed, on the other hand, is about attitude and the gangster/American culture. The second Infernal Affairs also has more of this.

I'd also like to say that since I watched all 3 Infernal Affairs movies at once, I can't judge on whether the sequels were right or not. I certainly enjoyed them and am very glad they were made but I also believe that Infernal Affairs could easily stand on it's own without sequels as it's a very strong and complete movie.

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I watched The Departed first, but I didn't know how much was copied so for most of the film I didn't try to predict things.

TD was sometimes boring at the start but the ending was better.
But for the whole film I prefer IA slightly.

They're both different films from different cultures, with a different feel to all the characters.

It'd be great to see some all-star European cast make another copy and compare!

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I saw Departed first and the saw Infernal Affairs. I prefer Infernal Affairs. It has better pacing and when you realize that Scorses copied a lot of scenes to look virtually identical one loses respect for Scorsese's version.

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Not really. I saw Departed first too. And I too was surpirsed at how identical it was. But I think overall I prefered Infernal Affairs because it moved quicker and got straight into the story (not to say I didn't enjoy the Departed opening, cause I loved it). But I think boht are amazing films, and like you say it was predictable because I knew the plot twists, but that didn't take away the excitement.

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I just want to thank everyone who stated their opinions like civilized people. It's great to be able to see what other people think and consider your own reasons for liking a movie. Personally, I thought The Departed was a better character study, but definitely hard to get into. Infernal Affairs was a better action movie and because of that presented the plot more clearly than The Departed. I gave The Departed a slightly higher score, but I definitely enjoyed them both (maybe Infernal Affairs a bit more, though my personal enjoyment does not always equate with a film's overall merit).

I don't see how this is being a troll, either, QueenNadine. You don't have to rip on people just because they happen to have different opinions. In fact, that seems to be trollish behavior...;)

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I saw Infernal Affairs a few days before The Departed came out in theaters. I thought Infernal Affairs was absolutely fantastic! One of my favorite films, and I think it completely ruined my viewing of The Departed.

The Departed was just really disappointing in my opinion. Now, I don't know if I would have liked it more had I not seen IA, or whether I would have even liked it at all...but Infernal Affairs just completely trumps it all the way. Infernal Affairs was more climactic while Departed seemed more episodic...and I don't think the story is meant to be episodic.

Also, I hate that Matt Damon died in The Departed. Just killed it for me.

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Talking about laughable, i found the departed to be more comical. They had it's moments where you was thinking what the heck just happened for example the ending, and the silly background music that was playing throughout the movie.

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Dude, I saw infernal affairs first and tought it was ssooooo much better dan Departed. Departed was okay but infernal affairs is, it being the original, much and much better. So I say departed was a nice flick but nothing compared to infernal affairs

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I'll be honest. I saw this film after seeing The Departed a total of eight times in theaters, and so my viewing was consciously more of a Venn diagram between the two versions than seeing it as its own beast. Scorsese's version towers over this film, but not without a few preferences from Hong Kong's side of the concept.

The head of the special investigations unit for whom the undercover cop, played with a highlight performance by Tony Leung Chiu Wai, works, played in Scorsese's The Departed by Martin Sheen, is portrayed so much better in this version. Despite how much better The Departed is than its predecessor, there was a stiffness to Martin Sheen's performance and in some of his scenes, especially his final one, which in IA is given a much looser, less comfortable, and frankly better stylized effect.

The scene in The Departed which two henchmen are joking about how to spot undercover cops is handled so much better in IA. In The Departed, there's an inexplicability about the scene, because it doesn't seem funny and it doesn't seem to have a purpose. In Infernal Affairs, the scene grows organically out of the dialogue.

Infernal Affairs is a decent thriller, yet it lacks the density and might of Scorsese's version. For instance, the female character in The Departed is a very human, poignantly pegged police psychologist played sensitively by Vera Farmiga. In Infernal Affairs, each male character, at least each one with a Roman numeral in the alphanumerical outline, has their own respective laxly probed "girl" character, the most hollow of which has the least amount of screen time and is for some reason featured on the cover scantily clad with a hand cannon as big as her head, the likes or ensuing effects of which she is not seen anywhere near in her very spare time on screen.

Infernal Affairs features flashbacks during its unraveling of plot twists. These flashbacks consist of replays of scene fragments that we've already seen, as if we didn't pick up on them before. It's one thing when we're looking back to get a look at something we already saw from the other end of the telescope, but here we're only being refreshed, which isn't needed. If a movie shows you something, then it's trusting you to absorb it. To replay it for the same reason you showed it in the first place is an insult to the audience's intelligence.

The Departed digs deep into the culture of its Irish-American environment, implying few degrees of separation between distant characters' upbringings, the aging neighborhoods, and details of that nature. I suppose Infernal Affairs didn't need to do this, but then again neither did The Departed. The verdict is that The Departed is a much more memorable film not simply because of the towering production values of a Scorsese film but because it's so much richer. Infernal Affairs is just another thriller to me. (Doesn't that title bother you? Infernal Affairs. It's silly, really. Its sum worth is an overt pun.)

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Infernal Affairs is a silly title, but that's just the English title they use for the US (i don't know about other english speaking countries, but they might use that title too). The actual title of the movie is mou gaan dou which literally translates to "no-stop road" i believe. relating back to the whole theme of choosing a path in this film, i think this is a pretty well-fitting title.

personally, i enjoyed this film a lot more than the departed. i thought the ending was much more thoughtful and actually gave you something to think about in infernal affairs. the ending in the departed was kind of comical (which i guess was intentional) but it just sort of left me with a feeling of wow, that was all pointless.

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I saw Departed first and liked it. Watching IA later definitely spoilt the suspense, but still i felt it was better made than Departed.

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