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Great film... probably more sophisticated than some viewers would like.

posted 17 years ago by casemon
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I think it's probably more sophisticated (without being up it's own arse) than many viewers would appreciate. I find it strange that people expect films be made just for them, rather than accept the work as the offering it is intended as.

The film is superbly written, shot, lighted, acted... just brilliant across the board.

And funny to boot. Every character had their own likes and dislikes (Wayans was playing character here people, he's supposed to be annoying).

Off beat? Perhaps to some. But it's a unique entertainment and clearly a work of art.

If you didn't like this film, how about as an experiment, you wait 10 years and see it again? Then let us know how you feel.

[–] desifir667 17 years ago

true

[–] Steve_Walls183 16 years ago

I love this movie!

[–] unterwasser 16 years ago

You're not alone, egghead poet Tom Paulin thought it was brilliant too... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO-y1ouw9EI.

[–] predadragon 16 years ago

Yep a hilarious film, a little light on plot, but the characterizations and acting of such are nail-on-the-head, fantastic stuff. 8/10

I may be dead... but that does NOT prevent my ablity to LIVE!!

[–] srdondinero 16 years ago

I totally agree with Casemon. I gave this movie a 9. If I had seen the older version of this movie I might have rated this movie at 8. I was very entertained with the distinct variety of characters, the good music, a very polished production over all and mostly because of its brand of comedy that appeals to many, but not all people. A future classic in my opinion as well. I would like to know how this movie would rate amongst people with average and sub-par IQ's compared to people with IQ's that are slightly above average and above. Maybe one day IMDB will implement this idea in the future. I know that I would find such a feature very useful. For example, I love comedies and I might have avoided seeing the movie Club Dread which I found utterly dreadful. I doubt that many Mensa members love this movie. - Just my personal wish, please comment if you agree.

[–] casemon 16 years ago

Interesting perspective.

Though I think finding new ways to separate yourself from others (whether with IQ, or Mensa, or whatever), says more about your emotional needs than any person you are trying to separate yourself from.

My overall take on this film, is that it's playful fun and it may take a slightly evolved psyche to appreciate, but has other merits as well.

[–] srdondinero 16 years ago

I agree again with your last sentence. As to your first comments, I just wish to say that I forgot my pill in the morning, so I am so sorry. I must go now, my security blanket is calling me. I still stick to the fact that I would like such an option available. Call me a stat nut, a human psychology nut, a person that wants to avoid bad movies or an emotional wreck. I don't care. It's just my two cents, and I believe that everyone is entitled to express their opinions without subtle "attacks". Perhaps we should be examining you, sir or maddam. I must have hit a nerve when I "dissed" the movie Club Dread. I am a bit perplexed, but I have to remind myself that their are many different types of people in the world that I am successfully co-mingling with believe it or not. And if you wish to know I am not a Mensa member or a genius, and I never claimed to be. I know that I am not taking the higher road here because I have used subtle "attacks" on you now, but I feel that I have to turn your mirror around, so that you can get a better look at yourself. I am not perfect and you can go right ahead and say whatever you want. I just hope that you learn something and I wish nothing but the best for you in this life. I am not going to respond further. Have a good day.

[–] casemon 16 years ago

My apologies srdondinero, I sincerely meant no offense. I only wished to express an observation (it's up to you to decide if it applies to you or not).

At least we can agree on the film :) And even though I do not know you, I too wish the best for you.

Peace be unto you kind & gentle person.

[–] Six-Shooter 13 years ago

This is the most polite flame war ever.

The knack to flying lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.

[–] AViewOfYou 16 years ago

I agree it is a terrific movie. I wouldn't call it great but it's very good. I think most of the negative comments are from people who either loved the original, were offended by the language, or who just don't get a lot of the humor.

I actually saw the original after seeing this version and thought the Coen's version was better.

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[–] ultimessence 16 years ago

Despite this possibly being the Coens' "worst" film, it still IS a Coen Brother's film and that alone gives it a chache amongst the pantheon. The Coen's worst would still stand up against most American comedies.

My biggest complaint is that it seems to be an overall attempt to go commercial by aiming as broad as possible.
Mainly, tho, it just wasn't as inspired as most of their work. A remake of a classic and a chance to work with Hanks was what got it made.

Idiocyncratic? Yes. Quirky and unpredictable? Ceertainly. And, as always, everyone in the cast seems to be having fun.

So, despite it being the lowest moment in their stellar, unprecidented careers, it is still a finely and distinctly crafted entertainment.

I plan to take the 10 year test too and see it again, after I've forgotten most of it. 5 years to go.

Sam K
(Irritable Bowel Syndrome, indeed!
You rock, J & E!)

[–] robzilla_73 16 years ago

i'd easily put it up there w 'the big lebowski'...

[–] mark-1589 16 years ago

Sorry, but this film really stunk.

[–] casemon 16 years ago

You didn't like it. That's fine.

I'd say try watching it again in a few years; see if you notice anything new.

[–] mark-1589 16 years ago

To casemon - no, I don't think so. I'm quite certain I don't like it, and I don't change my opinion about films. If I change my mind, I'll let you know.

[–] casemon 15 years ago

You are of course welcome to your opinion. My only offer is that you forget about the film for a while and see it again in a few years.

There is of course the idea that if you don't allow for new perspectives you generate aberrance, like still water generates bacteria.

[–] irishhelden 15 years ago

You don't change your opinions about films?

Wow, that really says more about you and your character than anything else.

Not surprising in the least that you didn't enjoy this film... everything checks out.