i don't like the ending - she was so mean to them all, especially to him, because she loved herself more than she loved him: instead of drinking from the spring and living forever with her true love (i suppose he was her true love), even if she would have suffered because of the others passing away, she preferred to live her life (so maybe he wasn't her true love) without suffering the eternity, but leaving him heartbroken, to live forever with an unhealing pain in his heart (because he did love her - even after almost 100 years he came back). what do you think?
She did the realistic and right thing. She loved him, but she realised that she had a life to live, despite how much it would have hurt her, the temptation probably would have pulled at her everyday. People aren't meant to live forever, that's why we don't.
The ending always makes me cry because depite the fact that jesse said he would always live her she abandons him for another man despite the fact he loved her enough to return after over 85 years. It always makes me so frustrated because i know that i would always do the opposite and drink from the spring! i aggree the ending definatly sucks!
That's the part that didn't get discussed in the movie (more in the book perhaps? I haven't read it yet). There can't be a full discussion of eternity without considering the state of the soul. An eternal existence on the earth would be miserable just as the Tuck's explained. The messages in the movie are very good and I like the message of the ending especially. But without including God's plan for the eternal state of the soul the message is incomplete.
How was she mean to "them all"? She rescued the family from prison and kept their secret, but, for herself, she chose Life (with a capital L) over what Tuck described so eloquently as "existing." ("You can't call what we Tucks have as living...we're like rocks.") Just because Whinney chose life does not mean she didn't choose love too.
The ending does suck. I mean, it seemed as if Winnie and Jesse would love each other forever. But then she goes and marries another guy, AND has children ? WTF. Reality bites. I know that, but the point of movies is so you can escape from reality. I want a happy ending, damnit ! *(:
She LIVED her life...and was happy, to say the least! By saying that this ending "sucks" you did not understand the entire essence of "Tuck Everlasting".
By drinking from the spring, Winnie would possess an empty life, sure with Jesse and the Tucks...but a false, meaningless, empty existence. I do not know a single human being who would prefer to endure that, than to run the course of their lives, gracefully..and truthfully.
"a false, meaningless, empty existence" - how can you not be forever happy with the person you truly love? i mean, Jesse's brother has a meaningless life because the persons most dear to him - his wife and children - passed away. but for two people that love each other life is never too long - if not, why then are people heartbroken when a dear one passes away?
after a couple hundred years im sure you'll get pretty tired of the same person and the same things over and over and over again.
just because she loved jess doesnt mean she didnt love her husband, she found someone else she loved and lived her life to its fullest
they say life is short for a reason, you're supposed to live it to its fullest because you know it wont always be here so better enoy it while you can
if you never died, there would be nothing to really look forward to because there would never be a "once in a lifetime" moment, everything would just drag on
Roger Ebert said it well: "Is it better to live fully for a finite time than to be stuck in eternity? The injunction to live life fully need not come with a time limit. That's why the outcome of the romance is so unsatisfactory. I dare not reveal what happens, except to say that it need not happen, that the explanation for it is logically porous, and that many a young girl has sacrificed more for her love."
I mean....yeah okay Tuck was right they are just "existing" but then live your life with the eternity you've been given! Go exploring, see the world the way Jesse said.
What bothers me about this movie is that seeing the world with someone she loved isn't considered "really living" but staying in the town she grew up in, getting married and having children is somehow the REAL LIFE. That makes no sense to me. One isn't more valid than the other. I understand the wheel of time thing and all, and I can understand it to some degree but overall it just falls flat for me at the end--the Tucks seem like good people who can still love and have feelings and fun and who really cares if that's forever or for 80 years.
It's like Tuck said---really live your life. However long it may be!
jesus, you're a bit idealistic about love. you want to keep her from living another love and from having children? you can't grieve forever over something you can't have.
Agreed. She moved on with her life. It's possible to fall in love more than once in your life. Why is it such a huge deal that she got married to someone else later?
IMO, it's extremely rare to find your soulmate at 15 years old, if ever at all. Beyond that, it is possible to have your heart break, then move on- she was only 15 for crying out loud, it could easily have been 10 years before she got married and had kids, and though she'd still remember him most of the pain would have healed.
Sorry, not trying to argue, just giving my point of view.
When the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night he checks his closet for Chuck Norris.
"she was only 15 for crying out loud, it could easily have been 10 years before she got married and had kids" ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Isn't it true though that during the early 1900's and late 1800's that people usually married their children off by 14 or so? they had those arranged marriages and what not. and if that's the case, Winnie's mom probably had her married off later that year or the year after.
I think you really missed what Angus told her and what is said plainly at the end of the movie. You may not be satisfied with it but it was portrayed as the only happy ending...to LIVE a life rather than just continue to exist without end or purpose is the happy ending! ;^)
I'm heartbroken by the way the movie ended, but it was the perfect ending for the movie. I would have loved it if she were able to have lived forever with him in total love, but this way it tears at us more. I just wish, some way, he'd have been able to say goodbye.
Let me first state that I have NOT yet read the book, Tuck Everlasting, though I do plan on reading it at one point or another. So with that said, here are my oh-so-fabulous (giving myself an esteem booster here) opinions based on watching the MOVIE. (Yes that’s right, I said opinions, as in these are my thoughts and I don’t plan on forcing these thoughts upon anyone else…at least I hope it doesn’t seem that way.):
I don’t think she was mean or selfish at all! Like some others already posted, Winnie chose LIFE. I’m not sure where you’re getting that she was “mean to them all, especially to him,” especially considering (as joanbrazas said) how in the movie she helped rescue the family from prison AND kept their secret. She probably was a little hostile in the beginning, but she opened up, which I found was a good development in her character. Her decision in not drinking from the spring, I think, was realistic and justified. People aren’t meant to live forever, and she finally figured that out. The idea of a “fountain of youth/eternal life” isn’t new and has in fact been alluded to and even sought after in the past. What I believed the movie was trying to portray was that in order to enjoy life, there has to be that knowledge that eventually, life comes to an end (I may be reaching here). I think Winnie, with her decision and actions, chose to live her life to the fullest till the end of her days.
Here are some quotes (from IMDb memorable quotes) that I found both relevant and meaningful for this topic and the overall theme of the movie:
-“If there's one thing I've learned about people, many will do anything, anything not to die. And they'll do anything to keep from living their life.” -“What we Tucks have you can't call it living. We just... are. We're like rocks, stuck at the side of a stream.” -“Don't be afraid of death, Winnie. Be afraid of the unlived life.” -“Immortality isn't everything the preachers rack it up to be.” -Winnie: I don't wanna die, is that wrong? Angus Tuck: No. It's part of being human. -[last lines] Narrator: Tuck said it to Winnie the summer she turned 15: Do not fear death, but rather the unlived life. You don't have to live forever. You just have to live. And she did.
The 2nd, 3rd, and 6th quotes from above are particularly crucial in attributing to the theme and the subject matter of this board.
Now, onto the issue of true love (cue the groans and mutterings of ‘gosh this pesky girl is still talking’). Let me just say that I am truly and utterly one of the biggest hopeless romantics you’ll meet, though it may not seem so at times. I admit, part of me pleaded and prayed for Winnie to take a sip (chants: chug, chug, chug!) so she could then be whisked away to live in the oh-so-cliché happily ever after fairytale ending, which I further admit that I also love said fairytale endings. I mean, come on, sweet, caring, and charming Jesse Tuck (::sighs dreamily:: all together now, ‘aww’), I’d be tempted, and I’m sure that Winnie was too, probably more than anyone could imagine. I don’t doubt at all her love for Jesse. I’m sure she truly did, and to say that he was her true love, still probable, since that’s how I viewed it in the end. However, she still had to live her life. Even though she could have been with Jesse forever, I don’t think she would truly be happy with this decision in the end, if she were to drink from the spring. I was happy with the ending, and as much as I would have loved the two of them together, she had to eventually move on, and she did (she found someone she loved, got married and had a family), and I respect her for doing so, for living her life. And in the end, I think that Jesse knew that as well.
Wow, didn’t expect this to be that long so I apologize if I put anyone through any agony due to my above rambling, and for probably veering off topic at times. I have the tendency to do that, but thanks for reading anyway. Take care all!
smile321, you said everything I was thinking way better than I could have. (Except that I had read the book, once, ages ago, so I already knew how it would end.)So, thanks. Now I don't have to figure out how to say it. :)
I think it would've been intersting though.. to see what would happen if he saw her like growing up and growing old and she seeing him still young and stuff. I was expecting for him to fall in love with her daughter or something later on.
I don't know if he was really her "true love". Maybe I am wrong, but hey guys she was 15. Now I am certainly the one person who can tell you yes, love can happen at 15, but I just didn't get the vibe. To me Jesse represented all that she wanted to be, she desired his freedom. The connection they seemed to have didn't feel like one to span centuries. These people will live forever, what if she made a mistake, that it was just an infatuation? She would be stuck with this guy forever, because hey, he's the only one who shared her secret. At 15 your mind can change like the wind, and yes he may have been her first love, but her last, the one and only? To me that would be the sad ending.
yeah, he is like the first boy she ever kissed. i mean to stake your whole eternity on emotions u have never felt before, that u have never had the oppertunity to feel before. it's like the first time u ever taste ice cream, and you like it, whatever that first flavor is, it will be you favorite until you try another flavor u know what i mean?
I think I did see the original movie. Tell me, is this the movie the boy falls from a big wheel at the carnival to proofe he is immortal and does she give the imoortaldrink to a turttle?
She should have drank the water. Jesse was her true love. I mean, how freaking bad can spending eternity with your true love be? I dont think her choice was selfish, and it may have been the right choice. I could never make a choice like that; To lead a normal life without the only boy I've ever loved, or spend eternity with him. But actually, when put like that, the choice is pretty clear. But If I was in her shoes, I would have drank from the spring, because true love only comes once. I know Natalie Babbitt wanted to teach us all a lesson when she wrote this book, but that doesnt make it any less depressing.
but at 15 how on earth would she know it was her true love? its completly illogical. i suppose i too was "in love" when i was 15 and at the time you always think its blissful, wonderful, and perfect. but looking back would i want to be with him for enternity?? of course not! its the just the same way. as said earlier...to commit herself would have completly binding and the exact wrong thing to do at a time where you are just defining yourself. it was a sad bittersweet choice, but the right one.
Sunny-22 wrote: "I think I did see the original movie. Tell me, is this the movie the boy falls from a big wheel at the carnival to proofe he is immortal and does she give the imoortaldrink to a turttle?"
That's the first film version of 1981. I thought it was fabulous, with the best music box tune I have ever heard, and ofcourse with the everlasting turtle that walks down the road at the end of the film. But this new film is kinda nice, too.
About the ending, I think that's what the story was about anyway. it's not just an 'and-then-they-lived-happily-ever-after-disney-marketing-product anyway!
Honestly, would it have been a good movie if she drank the water and went with Jesse? I would have been happy and inserted a few "AWW. THAT IS SO SWEET". But it wouldn't be the same. The movie and the book are both telling you the same thing. Living forever isn't as wonderful as it sounds. In fact, in some ways I was almost upset with Jesse when he asked her to drink the water. It was actually quite selfish. He's 104. He should be mature enough. But whatever, that's my opinion.
Honestly, thinking Winnie should have had the water is like hoping the townspeople would have saved the boy in the "Boy Who Cried Wolf". Sure it would have made it a happy ending, but the message would be trashed.
i love the storyline. but it broke my heart with how it ended. i understand the meaning of this movie clearly, but for me it just felt unresolved. it would have been ok that she chose to live a life, but i would have prefered for her to leave an explanation for him. he probably would have understood even without an explanation, but it would still show that she was thinking about him. but, what i really think is that several of the post before mine stated that she'll live an empty existance. i don't believe that at all. if she chose to drink from the spring he would have come back eventually, which is what he did. if she had waited for jesse tuck, they would have lived their lives together and in love. don't you guys think that immortality is worth it if you're with the people you love? for me, i would. if i'm with the people i love and the person i'm in love with, i wouldn't trade our lives for anything. i don't understand how some of you guys can say that its an empty existance if she drank from the spring
Good writing shouldn't always do what you want it to. Instead, the purpose shoudl be to make you feel.
Though yes, she had chosen not to be with the true love she met when she was 15, why assume that she didn't fall in love again with someone else? Yes, she did choose to be buried in the spot where they agreed to meet, but that doesn't mean that she spent the rest of her life pining for him. Instead, it shows that she made a promise to him and kept it.
In the movie, the narrator says something like "to the Tucks, the idea of an hour just doesn't exist" because they live forever. The same way that a fly must live in nanoseconds that we don't notice, because they only live for a day and humans live for years, Tucks, who live forever, don't really notice the years passing.
Winnie's true love looked surprised to find her gravestone, which tells me that he wasn't really aware of time passing. It could be that she waited as long as she could to be with him, but then she fell in love with someone mortal and chose not to wait with Jesse and drink from the stream.
But none of that matters. Did the book make you feel something? Then it was successful. The characters shouldn't do what you want them to do. There would be no conflict, and no story if they did everything totally logical, wonderful, and perect al the time. It would make for a boring-ass book.
The circumstances of her burial was Winnie's explanation to Jessie.
That she chose to be buried at the spring told Jessie that she loved him until she died, as he promised her, even though he couldn't fulfill that promise because he couldn't die.
The inscription on her tombstone saying she was a wife and mother explained that she had lived her life fully, as Angus counselled her to, instead of choosing mortality. (There are other posts that discuss this fully, I won't repeat the explanations here.)
The perennial flowers that Winnie had planted at her grave would last as long as the woods did, a gift that Jessie would enjoy whenever he and his family reunited at the spring. The white color for the flowers (and flowering vine) wasn't accidental, it represents purity and sacredness. Brides traditionally wear white to indicate their purity as they are giving themselves to their husbands. Winnie gave herself in death to Jessie, the closest she could come to being his bride in a mortal life that he could not share with her, and he would not have her give up.
I thought the message Winnie left for Jessie was beautiful.
To end the movie with her drinking from the spring would have contradicted the major theme of Natalie Babbit's story. The speeches made by the older brother and Angus Tuck would've been for naught. I know we want our movies to end on a happy note but not for the sake of the valuable lesson that the rest of the movie was presenting.
I think it should have endend with him going to her grave but seeing a girl that looked like her from behind then her turning around and it be like her grand-daughter and then he see's her grave, then looks back at her and smiles and then leave it open to a possible love concetion like with winnie and him all over again and a possible part 2
so yeah thats what i think should have happend even though it didnt happen that way in the book.