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Whats with people saying 'retard'? It's so politically incorrect.


It's not that hard to say "Mentally Challenged"

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At one point, retarded/retardation was an accepted term. Then they moved away from that and used 'special.' Now, that has a negative connotation behind it. So, now, mentally challenged is being used. Retardation sounds wrong today, but it is still being used. I don't have a problem with someone saying retarded, as long as they aren't doing it in a joking matter.




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Retardation is a term that has been used for a while and there is absolutely nothing wrong with saying it. Mentally challenged, special, retarded, they all mean the same thing.

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Just do NOT under ANY circumstances unless you are playing a villain in a autism etc. themed flick/play/TV show use "Retard". ;)

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The idea is not to use an adjective of their disability to describe them. Also, the idea is that they are people just like everyone else. When we instead say that Joe has a specific condition, then we are just telling you about a condition that he has. The condition does not define them.

I have a loved one who has Down Syndrome. She is not Down Syndrome. Instead, she is a person with many talents, likes, dislikes. and a great personality. She is also vary smart. She has an intellectual disability, but she is not her disability.

Many people also use the terms retard or retarded to put people who have disabilities and other people down. Putting people down is not joking. It is just being mean and inconsiderate of others.

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It's a reference to a scene in Tropical Thunder. It's funny in the context of that movie. I don't think it at the expense of the mentally challeged, it's about Sean Penn's and Ben Stiller's character's fictional portrayl of a mentally challenged person as a means to get critical/peer award recognition and the obsuridty of it.

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The current "vogue" term is cognitively impaired ("CI") - it's all semantics. It's just a matter of time before saying someone is CI is just as taboo as saying they are retarded.

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I completely agree with the OP. Argue all you want that 'retard' was once the accepted term. Do you remember that *beep* was once a highly used term and fully accepted. As with 'f*ggot' and other offensive terms. The point is that in the past, these people were treated unfairly and considered unequal and such terms WERE negative - they carry all the stigma of what society's opinions of them once were. Society has changed. Most of us are doing all we can to ensure that everyone is considered equal and given a fair chance at life, therefore we use different terms that don't carry the stigma of past transgressions.

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actually a *beep* is a pile of sticks it has nothing at all to do with homosexuality

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your a retard

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..and you can't spell, psweens08.

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The difference is is that those slurs were actually slurs to begin with and intended as such.

'Retard' was just an innocent description no different than saying a flat surface with four legs that people eat dinner on is called a 'table.'

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It's not that hard to say "Mentally Challenged"

Until people start using it too much for your liking, then that'll become off-limits too. Get real. Retard and retarded are real words and were not considered offensive at all until people like you kept on too long pretending that they were offensive.


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^Exactly.
Words are fine and then someone decides they aren't and a group agrees and it's suddenly offensive?
Such a blasted joke.

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Retard is still widely used in the field when in the proper context and there is nothing wrong with saying that someone is mentally retarded. I personally know folks that work with the mentally retarded and that term is used by them during discussion, etc.

The problem with the word retarded is it's thrown out in every day communication as a derogatory term. Someone doesn't get something or is acting like a complete jack*** and the common theme response is, "Shut up retard!" Etc. That being said, there is nothing wrong with commenting that Sam is retarded, because medically that's still a valid term.

You sound like another one of those young hipsters that comments about how everything is politically incorrect. "OMG it's African American!" "It's mentally challenged!" and rush to defend every race/handicapped person when it generally has nothing to do with you other than being offended because that's what's consider socially acceptable to make folks feel better about themselves.

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honestly I think the term mentally challenged is more offensive than Retard...

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I couldn't agree more! Times have changed and most of those uneducated people, that use that term, need to play catch up. Lack of morals and full lack of education. I despise the R word!

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