character you cant stand


There are so many characters in the show there has to be one you can't stand like Cindy sanders of Cindy sanders mine would be Cindy...

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Cindy Sanders
Sam Weir (in later episodes)
Those deadheads although the lady is pretty gorgeous.

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Is there a specific episode that made you dislike Sam or was it just his character development?

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Probably his character development.

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I couldn't stand Ken or Kim at first but they both grew on me

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i felt the exact same way. i hated kim until the episode where she brought lindsay to dinner and i hated ken until the 2nd half of the season

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That's the same moment when I started liking Kim too. And I also started liking Ken in the 2nd half but I guess that's because he was barely in the first half of the season and didn't do much when he was there.

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I haaaate Cindy. She has an annoying voice, and the way she treated Sam after he gave her that heirloom was pretty insulting. And then she acted like, "You can't break up with me. I'm a pretty pretty princess." I was wicked proud of Sam for breaking up with her so soon. I would think a 14 year old boy wouldn't have had the guts to break up with their "dream girl" after one date.

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Bill Haverchuck. Looking at him with his constantly open mouth, especially whilst he was eating, made me want to vomit.

I also really hated Alan White, for the detestable way he treated others. If the series had continued, I would have been delighted to see him end up in prison....and a sad victim of sexual assault in the shower.

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Bill's character was supposed to be disgusting at times. That was the idea. Martin Starr did a great job playing the character.

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Alan was supposed to be a "villain", just as teh gym teacher was.

But there was a human side of Alan - as we saw in the allergy episode, when Bill invites him to come to the sci-fi convention with them, and he struggles between wanting to, and being trapped in his bully persona.

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I never thought the girl that played Cindy Sanders was all that pretty in the first place. She was kind of plain looking without much of figure and a pointy nose.

I never liked Neil's brother and I thought he was kind of creepy. He's a junior in college and then he's hitting on this 16 year old high school junior who's a friend of the family?? I don't think it looks as odd on the show because Linda Cardellini was actually 3 years older "older" than the actor that played Neil's brother. So you had a 21 year old actor kissing a 24 year old actress not a 21 year old actor kissing a real 16 year old girl.

Lindsay could get really annoying as the show went on. I found her to be a bit of hypocrite when she constantly criticized Nick for his marijuana use and then she went with the dead heads for 3 weeks to Texas and Colorado.

Her character was annoying sometimes. "yeah, life is really hard when you come from a white middle class family and you're one of the smartest students in the state." It seemed like she was "slumming" it with the freaks for fun until she went off to some ivy league school while the freaks were stuck with their crappy lives.

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He was in his second year of college. That makes them only 3 years apart. A 16-year-old is an adult anyway.

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Since when is a 16 year old an adult?? What are you talking about?

You're right, the character is supposed to be a sophomore in college not a junior. It's still 3-3 1/2 years age difference which is huge at that point in life. So the character is supposed to be 20 years old. The actor who played "Barry," David Krumholtz, was actually 21 when he appeared in this. He actually looks older than that. The difference isn't as noticeable because Cardellini was 25 years old at the time.

The whole thing comes off a tad creepy because the actor looks older than a college sophomore and he goes back to high school and starts hitting on a 16 year old high school junior. Even if he didn't look older, he still looks like a creep going back to high school and hitting on a high school junior.

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Since when is a 16 year old an adult?? What are you talking about?

You're right, the character is supposed to be a sophomore in college not a junior. It's still 3-3 1/2 years age difference which is huge at that point in life. So the character is supposed to be 20 years old. The actor who played "Barry," David Krumholtz, was actually 21 when he appeared in this. He actually looks older than that. The difference isn't as noticeable because Cardellini was 25 years old at the time.

The whole thing comes off a tad creepy because the actor looks older than a college sophomore and he goes back to high school and starts hitting on a 16 year old high school junior. Even if he didn't look older, he still looks like a creep going back to high school and hitting on a high school junior.

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Don't think it was creepy when it's understood that Barry and Lindsay grew up together from childhood since Sam and Neil were friends. Wouldn't be surprised if they played in a tree house together and had a first 'kiss' when they were like 5. Barry probably always had some attraction yet appears to have lacked some confidence in himself during his high school years (the line about how college doesn't rate you on your high school days), plus Lindsay would've been like 12 years old when Barry was in high school... now THAT would've been creepy.

With the new found confidence in Barry and Lindsay having turned out quite well, Barry went for it and rightly so.

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You nailed Lindsay's character perfectly. Her storylines are my least favorite, and as a parent she's a freakin' nightmare. What a waste.

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Yeah, I thought they did a fantastic job with the Geek story-line and the Freak story-line was a bit of an uneven mess. They severely underutilized James Franco's character. Seth Rogen would disappear for 3-4 episodes and then show up and say a few wise cracks and then disappear again. Then they had that bizarre story-line of him with a hermaphrodite girl friend? Nick's father would show up and then disappear for 10 episodes. Busy Phillips character was a psychopath for the first 3-4 episodes and then suddenly becomes nice and sweet. By the middle of the season it didn't even seem like they were freaks anymore, they were just like all the other kids.

Lyndsay spent 3-4 episodes criticizing Nick's marijuana use and then the show ends with her jumping into a dead head van and becoming a dead head?? I hated the ending.

I knew a lot of people like Lyndsay when I was in college during the late 80's because their was this whole Grateful Dead revival around that time. They were mostly middle class kids looking for an excuse to get high and drunk and then they labeled themselves as dead-heads and would criticize everybody and everything and were all about peace and love and the hippie ideal etc and were usually the biggest hypocrites. Fast forward 5-10 years and these people got haircuts and shaved their beards and went to work at Lehman Brothers or some other corporate job. They bought nice houses in the suburbs and bought a Honda Accord or a Volvo or an Acura and now there just annoying people with money.

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Well, Kim's mother was only in couple of episodes too. This show was mainly about the Weir family and the friends of the kids, so I don't see a point why they should've showed the other parents unless the storyline needed that.

If we don't think about the script for the "future" episodes which were never filmed due to cancellation, Lindsay didn't exactly become a deadhead. The way I saw it was she just wanted to taste the freedom and skipped the academic summit and went to the tour with Kim and the others to have some fun. Lindsay tried marijuana in one episode after criticizing Nick and didn't like it - on the other episodes/in the end there was nothing about that she would've changed her mind about it.

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I never thought the girl that played Cindy Sanders was all that pretty in the first place. She was kind of plain looking without much of figure and a pointy nose.


I think that was kinda the point, she was supposed to be pretty but not unattainably so.

As for figure, well, she was only 15, a lot of girls haven't filled out at that stage. That's one of the things I liked about the show, that the characters looked their age.





"At a certain age, you have to choose between your face and your ass."

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Sam Weir is just too awkward to watch lol.

There really wasn't anyone else I disliked.

In the age of the internet, ignorance is a choice.

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Bill especially when he was eating with his big mouth open.

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I kind of wish Cindy didn't end up the way she did--I liked her better as that sweet pretty unattainable dream girl.


On the contrary, I thought it was great how they showed her "true colors" - as in, even though she's the "dream girl" and "pretty" (which I thought she actually wasn't), doesn't make her a compatible or even a nice person. You could see clues of it in the episode with Bill.

I also could relate, I knew a "Cindy" in junior high or high. Beautiful...and a really self-centered, mean b*tch, lol.

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