What's the saddest part of the show for you?

Is your quote from American Beauty?

Ya, that part of the show was pretty sad too.


We all go a little mad sometimes - Norman Bates

Yeah, and he´s watching Garry Shandling. But the saddest part is when he's talking to his gym teacher and starts crying when he tells him he likes his Mom. It´s a shame that producers never continued Bill´s teacher & Mom relationship on future episodes.

Yeah, I found this entire episode to be quite heartbreaking. Even though Bill acted like a bit of a brat my heart just went out to him - he's so endearing.

Which episode of The Wonder Years was this?

Yeah, that car scene did it for me too. Bill / Martin Starr was so good, I really want to see him in more movies.

Coach Frederick broke my heart too in that episode, attempting to become Bills friend and admitting his own short comings as "a jock". The end where Bill explains "Dallas" to him was so understated and sweet I nearly cried.

Such a beautiful, funny, and heartfelt series.

All the characters were sympathetic and so human, I can't say the same about ANY of the shows getting critical acclaim right now. Even the ones I love.

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I agree with all that you mentioned macduster lol. this show really hit it on point sometimes with its poignent moments. real characters. real reactions. i always liked the pace of which they spoke in this show it made it more realistic,, grunts mumbles, awkward faces. thats what it really looks like.

I love Wonder Years and so I am not surprised i love this show. plus i watched the whole thing in a week. recommended way for investing in characters fully.

saddest secens were when Sam came home and the parents got him the atari and they introduced it exactly how parents would do, well done Apatow. And Sams reaction which wasnt gratitude but a deep gratitude for having the type of parents that he has. they may be corny etc but he will never have to question their loyalty and yes when you are at that age, the last thing you need is stability to be a thing of the past or slowly fading away .

the other scene that made me tear up was when Lindsey got on the bus and said goodbye to her mom. she knew she didnt know where shed end up and that was a good scene. i might be one of the few who actually liked the ending. sure it was apbrupt. sure they could have gone one, the show had excellent writing and character development. plus each character was surprising and could lead to wherever, ie daniel. Plus ken was starting to develop more too. cant do anythgina bout it but appreciate the show for what it is. very good tv. and im mad everyday when im not creating a show like this again.

I was closin in on another BarBarian!

I didn't see it that way at all. At first, she is horrified to be in the closet with Bill. She treats him like dirt, but he stands up for himself by calling her a jerk. Then he makes her laugh and asks her some thought provoking questions which make her think about herself. She opens up to him and she kisses him. I don't think it was out of pity. More like out of respect and an attraction to his personality which she finally opened herself up to seeing. Remember Neal knocking on the door calling for Bill well after their 7 minutes were up? She was still in there making out with him, not out of pity and not to shut him up. As for being ashamed, I think maybe a little embarrassed that she wanted to kiss him, but not ashamed. Sure she is not going to go back into school on Monday and brag about making out with Bill, but what do you expect. She's not going to change who she is overnight. This is one of my favorite scenes in the show, I'll have to watch it again to see if I can pick up on what you got out of it.

I thought that was the saddest part of the show due to the fact that is was painfully unrealistic.

you should watch that scene again

We can all agree on that one. It was canceled before it was really getting a chance to reach its audience.

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Ya, I can't believe a great show like this gets cancelled when there's so many horrible shows that stay on the air for years and years. It just goes to show you people wouldn't know quality if it slapped them in the face. It's all about ratings if a show doesn't have good ratings, out it goes. I really hate how people are more concerned with ratings and how much money something will make rather than how well done it is. This is especially true about movies. I love movies that normally get limited releases to theaters. They usually have great acting and a unique / original approach to subject matter that mainstream movies rarely attempt. Some good example are, Moonrise Kingdom and Beasts of the Southern Wild (both movies just came out this year).

We all go a little mad sometimes
- Norman Bates

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That was a great scene.

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Yea she was one of those spoiled brats that think she knows the hard life. My father was a drill sergeant so you can imagine how fun that was growing up.But I have a better relationship with my parents know that I'm an adult. I think what some parents and children fail to understand is that your parents have to be a parent while you're growing up not your best friend. And I think that is the problem with the current generation. Not enough parenting and too much trying to be their friend.





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