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If Leo Crow was so determined to have Anderton kill him


Then why did he defuse the situation and spill the beans about the whole thing being a set up? He had John at the emotional pitch necessary to pull off the planned murder/suicide. When he sees Anderton hesitating, why does he break off the role play so easily? And then after asking, "So you're not going to kill me?" he goes and tells him the whole thing is fake.

Well. At that point, no way is John going to pull the trigger.


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You need to re-watch the scene, because what you wrote is not what happened.

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Ok. I just saw the movie a few hours ago, but my memory not being what it was, could be mis-remembering. What happened?

Democracy is the pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance. H.L. Mencken

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Crow grabs the gun and kills himself, I thought it was obvious.



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That's not my point.

Crow grabs the gun and shoots himself because there was no way Anderton was going to do it once he came clean on the whole thing being a set up.

Then I get told, that is not what happened.



Democracy is the pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance. H.L. Mencken

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That's not my point.

Crow grabs the gun and shoots himself because there was no way Anderton was going to do it once he came clean on the whole thing being a set up.

Then I get told, that is not what happened.
That's not the point that you wrote in your OP, to which I replied "That's not what happened". Your point was about [paraphrased] "Crow breaking off the role play so easily when he sees Anderton hesitating".

Here's the text of your OP:
[Subject heading:] If Leo Crow was so determined to have Anderton kill him

Then why did he defuse the situation and spill the beans about the whole thing being a set up? He had John at the emotional pitch necessary to pull off the planned murder/suicide. When he sees Anderton hesitating, why does he break off the role play so easily? And then after asking, "So you're not going to kill me?" he goes and tells him the whole thing is fake.

Well. At that point, no way is John going to pull the trigger.

I'll assume that you (still) haven't taken my previous advice, so I've done the work for you and found some links where you can re-watch the scene. Here's what happened:
Anderton vs. Crow, part 1: http://youtu.be/8MuZATnrE3Y
Anderton vs. Crow, part 2: http://youtu.be/5M4QWD0U8-A
(Those two fragments are almost back-to-back; it's just missing a short bit where Anderton is reading Crow his Miranda rights.)

Crow saw Anderton was not going to do it once Anderton made the decision to not kill Crow right before the alarm on his watch went off, and he decided to read Crow his Miranda rights. Anderton did not just hesitate, Anderton became determined to not give in into his murderous impulses. Crow did not have Anderton "at the emotional pitch necessary to pull off the planned murder/suicide" anymore, Crow realized that the window of opportunity was lost. And that's when Crow started to go a different route and plead on Anderton's compassion. Moreover, saying "If you don't kill me, my family gets nothing" doesn't necessarily mean that Crow was not guilty of Sean's abduction/death.

Where in those sequences did Crow "defuse the situation"?

Moreover, how else did you expect Leo "Loser" Crow to behave in those circumstances?

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Pretty sure that's what we're suppose to believe, but I can think of plenty of creative ways he could have gotten Anderston to pull that trigger. I'll leave my dark thoughts to myself, but I think you're spot on with your reasoning.

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Pretty sure that's what we're suppose to believe, but I can think of plenty of creative ways he could have gotten Anderston to pull that trigger. I'll leave my dark thoughts to myself, but I think you're spot on with your reasoning.
Thanks! Leo Crow was probably not a creative criminal with a dark mind, but rather an unimaginative, stress-avoiding, desperate man who wanted to get "absolved from his burdens" as quickly, smoothly and painlessly as possible.

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I think you are right.That scene was bit sloppy.Still a terrific movie nonetheless!

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maybe crow felt sorry for him.

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I think opposite - Crow felt sorry for himself

Yurenchu's distinction is subtle but important - Crow knew the jig was up the instant Anderton started reciting his Miranda rights

At that point, Crow had to improvise - so he told the truth in the (admittedly desperate and futile) hope that Anderton would kill him out of pity

It was a dumb ploy, doomed to fail, but Crow didn't have any plays left at that point

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Anderton wasn’t hesitating. He was reading Miranda rights, about to arrest Crow. Crow correctly saw that Anderton wasn’t going to kill him.

He spilled the beans in the hopes that his starving family would motivate Anderton to finish the job

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