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Why Scream 3 Is The Weakest In The Franchise


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While the genre shifted toward horror remakes as well, primarily from Platinum Dunes in the early and mid-2000s, with movies like The Amityville Horror and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Scream 3 took the already meta-humor that Wes Craven had introduced in the first two movies and dialed it up to eleven. This wasn't a good look for the movie, and arguably is one of the biggest detractors that kept it from being the smart, snappy, and scary slasher that the first two movies were. In essence, the Scream movies have always commented on trends in horror from the original being a refreshed take on the late '70s and '80s slasher movies, which Wes Craven contributed heavily to, and Scream 2 was a commentary on sequels.

Scream 4 took the franchise back to the roots by commenting on reboots while being one, but Scream 3 got lost in the shuffle. There are aspects of a third movie in a horror franchise that can be commented on, but the message is less clear. Often, the third and fourth movies are when franchises naturally run out of steam. Scream 3's twist about Roman Bridger being Sidney's half-brother who her mother gave up, resulting in him being bitter enough to manipulate her life and adopt the Ghostface mantle was convoluted. Scream 3 also makes some major commentary on Hollywood through its inclusion of the Stab 3 cast members for a 'movie within a movie' nod, another film trope. It had some fun cameos, including Jay and Silent Bob and Carrie Fisher as a washed-up actress. While memorable cameos, the comedy aspects were too forward for Scream 3 to maintain the nail-biting feeling of the first two movies.

Part of this was because Kevin Williamson, the original writer for the franchise, was replaced by a different writer (Ehren Kruger), even though the script was adapted from Williamson's notes. Those involved with Scream 3 made a conscious decision to pivot toward horror-comedy because the Columbine High School massacre resulted in a magnifying glass being pointed at teen-oriented, violent media; Scream 3 tried to avoid at least some of that controversy by shifting tone. While still a solid movie, its weaknesses are most obvious when directly compared to the others. With talk of Scream 5 on the way, it'll be interesting to see what the franchise riffs on in the future.

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Spot on about the out-of-place comedy, but I thought Scream 4 was no better. The opening was actually worse than anything in Scream 3. And while the premise has more potential, Scream 4 just feels less like a Scream movie than Scream 3.

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Yeah Scream 4 made me appreciate Scream 3 much more.

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I agree. The whole thing just felt different. And they used a lot of boom lighting the entire film. The daytime scenes were so bright.

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i honestly enjoy this more than part 2

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It's the weakest of the original three, but I still enjoyed it. I'll take it over Scream 4 any day.

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Agreed

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It's not the worst of the franchise. Of the original trilogy? Yeah probably.

I'd rank them in order of release;

1. Scream (1996)
2. Scream 2 (1997)
3. Scream 3 (2000)
4. Scream 4 (2011)
5. Scream (2022)

My hopes for the next one aren't too high as Neve pulled out and won't be in it. Though hopefully it adds something new, the fifth one was just too much of a retread of the original. Now that they've killed Dewey off it's something of an issue as the new cast is shit except for Jenna Ortega, hopefully she pulls rank and becomes the new lead.

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Scream 6 in NYC could be a good change. We shall see....

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So far I'd go,

Scream 2
Scream
Scream 3
Scream 4

Looks like I'll be seeing the fifth some time over the coming week, so we'll see...

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I'm not one for following the 'the original is the best' rule. I'm a proud sequel admirer. However the cast in the first Scream is just so memorable for me. Possibly because I watched it way more than the sequels for the past 26 years. Stu, Billy, Tatum, Randy...that's the dream team.

The criticisms I'd throw at 2 are regarding the villains and final showdown. They feel some what lackluster compared to the finale in the first film. Also whilst the opening scene at the cinema is cool, the opening in Scream is brutal. One of the best openings to a horror film ever.

Aside from the aformentioned points, Scream 2 is a rolls royce of a film and those 'issues' are only in comparison to the first film. Taken as it's own thing Scream 2 is largely flaw free.

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Okay, watched the fifth one last night (and against all expectations really enjoyed it!). So, ranking all five,

Scream 2
Scream (1996)
Scream (2022)
Scream 3
Scream 4

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The only one I actually liked was the first and even then it was far from perfect

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Scream 3 is a fucking masterpiece compared to 5cream - some of the worst woke crap Hollywood has shat out yet, I don’t even remotely consider it canon. They fucked up so bad with the wokeness and killing Dewey (because he was a beloved white male character - can’t have that anymore) that even Neve has checked out. My ranking:

Scream
Scream 4
Scream 2
Scream 3

That’s right, Scream 4 is brilliant and people are starting to wake up to that fact.

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I agree Scream 5 is poor.

Scream 4 is good but for me the aesthetic feels off. Scream is so synonymous with the mid-to-late 90s for me. The first three feel of the same time period and like a cohesive trilogy. The 11 year gap between 3 and 4 sort of ruined it a bit. Feels very 2010s and distant from the first three in a way.

I have these issues with other franchises like Friday the 13th. That franchise belongs in the 80s and as much as I enjoy some of the later films (including the 2009 reboot) they just don't feel quite like 'Friday the 13th', not the one I grew up watching over and over again. Those 1980s Paramount releases just nail the vibe. A slick 2009 hollywood production just doesn't feel the same.

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Perhaps, but Wes and Kev made sure the quality, thrills and wit were there in Scream 4 - that’s what I care about more than anything so if a sequel loses a certain aesthetic because it’s made in a later era… I can live with that as long as the film is great. See also Top Gun: Maverick.

5cream on the other hand loses everything that made the originals great. Worse, these talentless fucking nobodies who took over the writing and directing had the gall to kill off Dewey, steal the name of the original film, and pour a load of Woke BS into the audience’s face by using the Scream franchise as a Trojan Horse. Wes is spinning in his grave so fast you could power Hollywood.

Thank god Neve walked, should help make 6cream tank and hopefully discourage them from raping this franchise any more than they already have.

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Scream
Scream 2
Scream 3

Scream 2022
Scream VI
Scream 4

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