Have you seen this movie recently? I know that when you see it in theaters when you're younger you can suspend your disbelief and take it seriously. But watch it again on TBS. It's horrible. So many summersaults, doves, motorcycles, Tom Cruise flashing Blue Steel, explosions... I mean wow. It's the most self-gratifying movie production ever. And I like John Woo. The Killer and Hard-Boiled are great movies. But this is just unbelievable.
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I swear to god every dam forum here has this topic no matter how great/crap the movie is. 99% of the time it's someone who just wants a arguement.
It's a pretty averege movie but its nowhere near as bad as some others.
I agree with Koopz. MI2 might not be a marvel of cinema but there are far inferior films out there. Batman and Robin, Battlefield Earth, and We Own the Night are a few examples of films that are significantly worse than MI2.
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If you're gonna bring examples of bad movies, at least bring bad movies :D. Havn't seen your other two examples though.
Battle Field Earth is right up there with Plan 9 From Outer Space. And Batman and Robin is an abomination.
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yeah but We Own the Night is nowhere near as bad as those other movies that guy mentioned. it's a pretty decent film.
shareHaven't seen it so I can't comment.
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we own the night was fantastic, other than the, you can become a cop plot element, i loved it. I can understand if you don't liek it, but to list it with battlefield earth you'd have to be crazy. Also, this movie is insulting if just because of what it did to the original movie.
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I think you’re confusing this film with another, We Own the Night is an excellent film!
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I'm not sure why, but I've voted it a 1.
I don't do that very often... in fact I think it's the only 1 I've ever given.
A couple of reasons, which seem an over-reaction even from me, but given the budget size and 'class' this movie is supposed to be...:
* Motorcycles sprining knobbies out of nowhere.
* Martial arts kicks like some kind of scorpion over their head.
Just total carp.
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I know, his performance was "flawless", in a literal sense. Yet this movie still manages to make itself seem more plausible than most action movies in the last 10 years. I'd rather watch Tom Cruise than some **** nosed pistol whipping feminist in high heels.
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Instead he's a long haired pistol wielding scientologist on a motorcycle. God that scene was retarded.
shareI think this is the worst film ever made.
John Woo is an idiot who thinks the reason films were created were to bring in cash, instead of believing that films are meant to be art.
Part of films have to have corresponding art with the plot in total harmony. None of his films have that. This was a clear example of why most foreign films are so much better than ours. Nothing original, nothing artistic, and all it was in the end was a Tom Cruise infomercial which was a sequel to one of the best spy movies ever made.
Disgraceful.
"John Woo is an idiot who thinks the reason films were created were to bring in cash, instead of believing that films are meant to be art."
This here is why people within this forum most likely don't and shouldn't respect your opinion. You know nothing about Woo's films if that's your shallow understanding of the man. Period.
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"John Woo is an idiot who thinks the reason films were created were to bring in cash, instead of believing that films are meant to be art."
This here is why people within this forum most likely don't and shouldn't respect your opinion. You know nothing about Woo's films if that's your shallow understanding of the man. Period.
Don't like what I'm saying? Then call 1800-Ima-CryBaby and ask for "Waaaaaa"
I was a bit annoyed by the action sequences sometimes (especially the slow motion scenes) but it was a fun movie and nowhere near the worst movie ever made. Have you ever seen a Uwe Boll movie?
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Well, I'm sure this is NOT the worst movie ever made, but it ranks well below average.
And for that, let me tell you I've watched two Uwe Boll's films yet: "In the name of the king" and "Alone in the Dark" (how could I miss that one?)
Both are stupid, AitD pretty boring, but I don't remember having been as disgusted by any of those as I was by MI:2, it seems like Woo decided that when he needed the story (?) to go forward, he just had to add more fly kicking, or an explosion, none of it to a good purpose.
when tom cruise is rolling around mid-gunfight and finds time to slip on a pair of designer shades... that did it for me.
Labelling it the worst film EVER is maybe a bit TOO far, but its down there with some of the worst, no question. 1/10, total trash.
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Agreed, there must be a few dozen moments in this movie that are beyong ridiculous. Like the end, with the motorcycles, the drive at each other, jump off, grab each other in mid-air, the bike blows up, they fall about 25 feet and they continue fighting. That is the movie in a nutshell.
shareYou failed to mention the sports road bikes that went from having road tyres to off road tyres. It was one of the worst scenes I've ever seen in a movie.
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No, no, no. If you are talking the WORST movies ever made, try these. (1) Armageddon--Best of the Worst. (2) The Brother from Another Planet. (3) Saturn 3 (Farah Fawcett). And about half of the films from the 1980's. But MI-2 is actually good on its own rites, and the so-called "over the top" scenes are what make it unique. I suppose, without the music backing it up, yeah, it might be worse--but not THE worst. Think about it. Have you SEEN every movie that's been made? That's just silly.
shareI agr33 wurst movee everr. I say dis abowt every movve i dunt liek tho. I kant grasp teh concepts of absolutes cuz i think my mommy n dady r also brohter n sister lol
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Acrobatics, flying doves, the two-gun-in-hand bullet exchanges... gee, you've just described every freaking John Woo movie out there. If you're complaining about those signature items in MI:2, then I don't know how in God's name you can claim to like John Woo at all. Oh, and Face/Off? Guess what??? GASP... IT'S MORE OF THE SAME!!! What were the freaking odds on that happening? Better do a re-evaluation of which one of those two is worse!
Here's a test for you... go watch the following movies in any order, and you'll be begging for John Woo to sign a deal to direct MI:4 through MI:28 with Tom Cruise doing somersaults in a freaking muu muu:
North, Cabin Boy, Battlefield: Earth, Catwoman, Encino Man, Bio-Dome, Batman & Robin, Pooty Tang, Ishtar, Flintstones II, Highwaymen, End of Days, Garfield, Zardoz, Highlander II: The Quickening, Hottie & The Nottie, Toys
So... do you have any brain cells left now?
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Hey don't be knocking Pootie Tang .. it is a comedy masterpiece.. kappa chow!
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