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'If I'd seen my dad shot I'd be a terrorist too' line...


When Ford is talking to the girlfriend he basically says that if he'd seen his father shot dead when he was eight, then he would probably be holding a gun too, and wouldn't have a badge, ie he would become a terrorist. Coming from the good guy, isn't that a slightly dodgy line, almost condoning terrorism?

The guy who shoots Pitt's father at the beginning doesn't look like a soldier - I would have guessed that he came from one of the protestant terrorist organisations rather than being a British soldier, since they don't tend to wear leather jackets and balaclavas.

I've got my doubts about the film's view of republican terrorism, as Pitt's character is basically a flawed anti-hero whom the viewer secretly roots for, whereas the English characters (as ever in Hollywood) are stuck up ruthless killers.

It's interesting how Pitt's character has apparently only ever killed soldiers and policemen, never civilians. This might serve to make him a more sympathetic character to those who subscribe to the "freedom fighter" view, whereas in real life the IRA killed many more civilians than members of the security services.

I very much doubt this film would have been made in the post 9/11 era.

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all that needs to be said is this "not a bullet not an ounce" CIRA Free and United
your American cousins are behind you

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"Hundreds of Protestand children have seen their fathers and mothers killed by the IRA but they haven't become killers."

I was in stitches on the ground before I could actually write this comment.

You really havent got a clue or else your just a biased fool, Loyalist paramilitaries are responsible for the most civilian casulties in the troubles.

They had no political agenda but their ideogly was based on pure hatred for catholics, serial killers with no political agenda. Maybe I could shed some light on the troubles for the Americans reading this and some of the savage crimes the Loyalist paramilitaries were responsible for:

The Shankill butchers, a hit squad of the UVF who murdered over 30 civilians. They were most notorious for their late-night abduction, torture and murder of random Catholic civilians. Now when does abducting an innocent man and pulling his teeth out with plyers become an act of war, they were animals.

The UVF were far worse that the Provos, Dublin and Monaghan bombings, killed 33 civilians, the highest number of deaths in a single day during the conflict.

Gusty Spence(leader of the UVF) later wrote "At the time, the attitude was that if you couldn't get an IRA man you should shoot a Taig, he's your last resort".

I could go on all day about the scum that were the Loyalist paramilitaries.

What started the troubles? Catholics being treated like 2nd class citizens, couldnt get jobs, wernt allowed to vote, burned and intimited out of their houses while the RUC watched on.

What would you do? In step the resistance = the Provisional IRA.

Fair enough they didnt remove England from the north but they got catholics recognised and crumbled a loyalist governemt.

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That line just didn't ring true to me. I thought that it was a sop to republican
fighter sympathizers, in light of the fact that you KNEW Frankie was going to die. They would never have made a film in which Frankie had escaped alive.





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