'If I'd seen my dad shot I'd be a terrorist too' line...

"I think the point you have missed is that what he means is that if he had been in Pitts position he may have picked up a gun too, but not a badge. and could you blame him!"

I don't think I missed the point, I think that was my point exactly. He's saying that it's OK to go on a murderous rampage if you've got a beef.

"the issue of the soldier, firstly do you really think if an army officer killed a republican man in front of his wife and child he would do it an army uniform?! "

No, of course I don't think that an army executioner would be necessarily be dressed up as a soldier - it's still a valid point to ask why Pitt's character thought it was a soldier and not Loyalist killer.

"Another point, do you really think every member of the IRA has killed civilians? i dont think so."

No, of course I don't think that and I didn't say that either.

yes
i also hav a dead aunt and a nose broken twice by brits to back it up aswell

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llf llf llf llf(that means laughing like *beep* ever heard of loyalists?

Rubbish. Groups such as the UDA and the UVF have butchered hundreds of Catholics just because they practise that religion. Im not saying one side is worse than the other, but that statement is the biggest load of crap on here and i would imagine the line at the bottom (concerning Harry, England etc) reflects what side you are coming from.

well then maybe the protestants from Britain need to stop being imperialists and stop invading other peoples lands if they don't like having children seeing their parents die. What about all the children that were not able to be born in Ireland due to the British killing people based on religion? Staying in Britain sure would have saved a lot of lives. Britain has changed since Senator Mitchell and Blair and Adams sat down to a cup of tea (or Bottle o' Guiness), but Britain was out of control. Ireland for a very long time did not have the means to react to Britains agressive behavior towards them, and when they finally do, they get called terrorists for reacting to the British. Thats like saying its ok to shoot someone, and then not get punished when the evidence is built up enough for the other team to prosecute. In reality, what the Irish-Republicans are doing can be considered much more humane than what the British did. The Catholics don't want to kill all the Protestants if they don't turn Catholic (The protestants wanted all of Ireland to become Protestant, and just like Scotland, the British went around slaughtering non protestants for a while). They would just like the Counties back, and it's fine with them if their are protestants their. But when you talk of the IRA being terrorists, you should also talk of the near-holocausts the British have come close to committing.

David Lloyd George once promised Ireland that they would become one nation on one island. World War One happened and he lost power soon thereafter due to political changes in Britain that were made to economically hinder the German economy and help bring hitler to power due to Britain and Frances inability to allow Germany to take part in the treaty of Versailles. Next came Chamberlain and Churchill who both, although knowing that Ireland sent 245,000 troops to help in the allied attacks in mainland europe, decided to break the former PM's promise of a united Ireland and further the problems between the two. Thank you to Britain for many problems in africa, Ireland, the falklans, china, and the pakistan and India conflicts.

oh, and by the way, if anyone is wandering why drugs are here on earth, people should start reading up on the Opium wars. In short, the Chinese emperor told his people to destroy all the opium, and Britain came into China, took over and threatened invasion (china had also banned gunpowder at this time, hmmmm....) with their lethal guns and forced Chinese people into purchasing the drugs. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOU HAVE DONE,BRITAIN!!!
Muchos Grazie e tu, Brittania!!!

"Hundreds of Protestand children have seen their fathers and mothers killed by the IRA but they haven't become killers."

I was in stitches on the ground before I could actually write this comment.

You really havent got a clue or else your just a biased fool, Loyalist paramilitaries are responsible for the most civilian casulties in the troubles.

They had no political agenda but their ideogly was based on pure hatred for catholics, serial killers with no political agenda. Maybe I could shed some light on the troubles for the Americans reading this and some of the savage crimes the Loyalist paramilitaries were responsible for:

The Shankill butchers, a hit squad of the UVF who murdered over 30 civilians. They were most notorious for their late-night abduction, torture and murder of random Catholic civilians. Now when does abducting an innocent man and pulling his teeth out with plyers become an act of war, they were animals.

The UVF were far worse that the Provos, Dublin and Monaghan bombings, killed 33 civilians, the highest number of deaths in a single day during the conflict.

Gusty Spence(leader of the UVF) later wrote "At the time, the attitude was that if you couldn't get an IRA man you should shoot a Taig, he's your last resort".

I could go on all day about the scum that were the Loyalist paramilitaries.

What started the troubles? Catholics being treated like 2nd class citizens, couldnt get jobs, wernt allowed to vote, burned and intimited out of their houses while the RUC watched on.

What would you do? In step the resistance = the Provisional IRA.

Fair enough they didnt remove England from the north but they got catholics recognised and crumbled a loyalist governemt.

But what would you know alistair?clearly nothing as every point youve made is anti-republican and historically and politically incorrect

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