When Kurt Russell gets the trucker to pull over after he left the diner and the trucker claims he has never seen him or his wife before. If it was me, there is no way I let that trucker get out of my sight from then on. I also would have beat the *beep* out of the trucker if had too rather than let him drive off, because I know this man had something to do with the disappearance of wife.
And too the trucker should have told him instead that he did give his wife a ride to the diner and that was the last he seen of her, because that would have gotten him off the hook. You wouldn't have known who to suspect then. It could have someone from the diner that abducted her. If he had done this a few times already you would think that he would planned it out like that. But by acting the way he did would definantly give the husband a reason to track him down.
edunn, with your thinking, it would've only been a 20 minute movie. why the complaint? your argument IS the whole point of the movie. LOL! I think it's a GREAT movie.
I get your comment, really. I like the movie, but the tagline is that it could happen to you. Well I am sorry. If you have any common sense it couldn't happen to you.
The trucker would have never gotten out of his truck and after almost stopping would have just drove on down the road. There is no reason for the trucker to want to talk to him at that point.
I get your comment, really. I like the movie, but the tagline is that it could happen to you. Well I am sorry. If you have any common sense it couldn't happen to you.
I've got news for you: most people woefully lack common sense (not to mention, especially in stressful situations).
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Yes, it would have been more plausible if the trucker said, "Yeah, I left her back at the diner and I had to go." Makes perfect sense but then we wouldn't have a movie...
true. but consider this. the kidnappers plan a is to get both of them in the truck. that hasn't worked out. they have to switch to plan b and set up another trap to get jeff separately. and also, they couldn't possibly have guessed how long it takes jeff to fix the car. so running into jeff again on the road may very well be a surprise for red and he is acting under a lot of pressure too. plus it turns out that red's decision is right because a cop drives by only moments later. if he had struggled to overpass jeff, they might get into trouble with the police. if he had said that he dropped off amy at the diner, he would become the last person to see her and might be taken in for questioning. either way the police might search his truck more thoroughly and eventually find amy. he may have considered all these factors before he makes the safest decision.
plus, i honestly had a moment of doubt that maybe it wasn't the same trucker. and i believe jeff has at least considered that possibility when the cop suggests it.
See the problem with this thread is, your not thinking past this point of the movie. If you watch later anyways you find out it is the trucker, and makes this thread pointless anyways. The question only goes to point of the Russell making the trucker pull over and the cops stop, then the movie is over. Better to enjoy the movie and watch the whole thing, than to dwell over something and then ruin the whole movie over this question.
See the problem with this thread is, your not thinking past this point of the movie. If you watch later anyways you find out it is the trucker, and makes this thread pointless anyways. The question only goes to point of the Russell making the trucker pull over and the cops stop, then the movie is over. Better to enjoy the movie and watch the whole thing, than to dwell over something and then ruin the whole movie over this question.
What is better question. Who would kidnap someone for $90,000 and when that semi cost probably more than that, and have like 5 people or more on it, and not able to split it? Waste of time to me, money, effort, just to end up losing what they never had in the first place. Even in 1997, $90,000 split between that many people is hardly anything.
And too the trucker should have told him instead that he did give his wife a ride to the diner and that was the last he seen of her, because that would have gotten him off the hook.
You raise good questions.
The only thing I can think of is that, as the trucker, if you lie about it by saying you dropped her off somewhere, you have to come up with details ... which means you have to lie more and you potentially get involved in a web of lies, especially if the police start asking you stuff. How long she was in the truck with you, where it was you dropped her off, what she was doing when you last saw her, what time it was, etc., etc. Then the police go investigate that place and find out there's never any witness account or any evidence whatsoever of such a woman with such a description - or even the trucker himself - ever having been there. People come and go at truck stops all the time so such an eyewitness account of a person is tenuous at best, but if there's nothing at all for the cops to go on in such a situation, it is going to potentially raise an eyebrow in the direction of the trucker who said he dropped her off (when there's zero evidence that he did so). Instead of just being a guy who (claims he) doesn't know anything, you become a key witness, you're admitting yourself to be someone who is thought to be potentially the last person to have seen a missing person.
By completely denying everything, the trucker is getting himself more involved with Russell but LESS involved with the police. I think that's a trade he's willing to take.
From the trucker's perspective, he's not interested in being "off the hook" from Russell or getting away from Russell - he's interested in extorting Russell for tens of thousands of dollars. He knows he's going to be in contact with Russell in the near future anyway to get the money. But by denying the incident for the time being - and opening his truck up to show the cop that there's no evidence of any kidnapping - he DOES get off the hook as far as the cops are concerned, and that's all he cares about.
In short, I think in some ways it could be argued that it's just easier, simpler, less-time consuming, and more practical to just deny ever having seen her or Russell. He's not worried about Russell - as far as the trucker's concerned at that point, he's got Russell exactly where he wants him.
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Agreed, the trucker had no reason to stop if he didn't want to. No witnesses, no recordings of anything, Barr could easily deny that he ever even met Russell's character (which he did).
The police were never in on it as evidenced towards the end so they did not want to get involved in any way shape or form with the police. Not to mention all the missing individuals that the one deputy points out. If one random trucker all the sudden seems to admit that he dropped her off, now police start questioning and investigating. They have a lead to go back to.
Nobody ever saw the girl getting dropped off, nobody saw her leave, it's odd to think she just left, there was never any phone call made for the service truck, etc.
Now you're going to go back to the guy that dropped her off and start posing questions in a different way to see if he can get himself caught in lies. The minutes he does, he's f'd.
I see where your coming from with not letting the truck driver out of his sight but the cop was there what could you do? The cop let him go the cop would have arrested him for harassment.
The trucker wouldn't want to admit meeting the woman because he would become the last person to see her alive. When the cops got involved witnesses from the dinner would say she never showed up. The trucker would start to look like a suspect.
I apologise if this has already been written, but there is one thing about the scene with the cop that bugs me.
It is when they start saying he may have mixed up this truck with another one. Why doesn't he say 'Yeah OK maybe..just maybe i got the truck mixed up, but the guy getting out of it?'.
Why doesn't he point out he met this guy not half an hour ago and that he is not going to forget a distinctively dressed man, wearing glasses and a cap.
I know the cop is in a very bizarre situation, but if Kurt Russell says that then surely he would think...this guy has a point and would take him more seriously. It seems the cop just brushes him off. Then again i'm not sure what the cop could do.
After all it would be incredibly unlikely that there are two trucks driving around that area at the same time with two very similar looking blokes isn't it?
"I know the cop is in a very bizarre situation, but if Kurt Russell says that then surely he would think...this guy has a point and would take him more seriously. It seems the cop just brushes him off. Then again i'm not sure what the cop could do"
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There is nothing more the cop could do, he has no evidence for Jeff's claims and without evidence he is not allowed to take Jeff's word on it. Yes we know the truth but the cop doesnt. he also doesnt seem to believe Jeff. Barr does a very convincing act, its not surprisingly he let him go, it would be against the law to pull him in without evidence.
Also someome mentioned about why Jeff didnt attack the driver. I think he would have if the cop hadnt shown up, you could hear he was getting pretty angry
Anyone who makes the complaint with a film that "I would NEVER do that" as a reason to bail on a movie is ridiculous. Someone who makes the complaint is too narrow-minded. Writers can't just write what maybe ONE guy would do, they try and have a character represent all men - many men - and if most people knew how hard it is to structure a thriller, they would be able to move on and enjoy the film. I agree that there are MANY logic problems with many films but this story is very tightly structured and laid out, the direction is crisp and the performances haunting. It also is very very similar to an excellent 70's TV movie that starred Cloris Leachman and it is basically the same story with the genders reversed. Her husband Dabney Coleman goes into the men's room at a remote diner as she waits for him at a luncheon table - and never comes back out. And everyone starts to say to her "what are you talking about??" You never came in here with no man." A well made TV film worth seeking out. Wish I could recall the actual title. You can always IMDB Cloris Leachman and look up for a TV film in the early 70's.
Sadly it is a he said he said there and the cop unless provided with hard evidence cannot do anything. It is lame, but this is partly why many rapists get away with it.
"Why doesn't he point out he met this guy not half an hour ago and that he is not going to forget a distinctively dressed man, wearing glasses and a cap."
I haven't seen the movie in awhile but if I remember correctly he was wearing the stereotypical clothes of a trucker since you used the word "bloke" I'd assume your not from the us but his clothes were quite normal for the job.
I thought Russel made it known that he remembered him.
The ways the laws are in the US your innocent until proven guilty and all the cop would have had was one man's word. No evidence that he ever had her. The cop doesn't even know if Russel even had a wife he could have made it up at the time.
I believe by that time in the movie he didn't have the girl anymore one of his buddies did. So if the cop would have arrested him sooner or later they would have had to let him go I believe 48 hours or so. His buddies could have killed her and dumped her in some other state and it would be proof that the trucker didn't kill her.
Either way it wouldn't be enough evidence for a conviction. Even if Russel knew he took her its his word against his.
I have seen and been in some persona experiences where you're practically pleading with cops to do something, but they do dnot. So I found that scene kind of beleivable.
No, they were different. When the second trucker was stopped, I rewind the film back to the first trucker who got the wife. The filmmakers deliberately made the two look similar to each other, but there are some clear differences: Both are wearing hats but one of them has "USA" on it while the other has an American flag. One trucker actually wore glasses while the other didn't.
Just because he has different hat, glasses, and shirt, does not mean it is a different guy. Easy enough time to change those things, and cop did not even get in the trailer of truck. Not this is one of the stupidest things to try to convince us or others that it was a different guy.
Even in real life the crook or criminal could do the same thing. Just change his clothes and items. So really to me this was not interesting discussion to me at all. How hard is it to look at those to pictures, and not see it is the same guy? This is a movie, and in real life, the cop, if he saw the two pictures would say the same thing as me, if the cop was not involved anyways, would say it is the same guy.
As for a question about why the guy said he never seen him and his wife before, is just like acting dumb when someone asking you a question. Better to not know anything than to make it look like you do, and it makes you look suspicious. Anyone know this especially when trying to get away with something or someone finding out. Why would he say he left her at the bar?
Not only does it make no sense for this movie, but it like others said, it makes the movie pointless and short.