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Wasn't the Czar Nicholas a pretty evil dude? This movie glorifies him


My family were jewish communists and he sent them to Siberia, they were educated doctors but they had to drive a ferry across Lake Baikal just because they were Jews. He also had pogroms where he'd just send kossacks to go raid Jewish villages and do things like slice pregnant women's stomachs open just to raise Russian morale! Also he completely ignored to common people and is responsible for the huge divide of haves and have nots that lead to the people revolting in the first place.

In short he was a horrible leader and the Romanovs were horrible Czars and a joke for their country, I like this movie but I don't like how they romanticize this disgusting excuse for a human being that was Czar Nicholas II
Not to mention Bloody Sunday. He singlehandedly destroyed the Russian economy with his retarded wars and his actions got the entire Russian naval fleet destroyed. He was basically as bad as Stalin, nearly worse but this movie makes him and his family out to be kindhearted innocent royals

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It is unfortunate of those who died, but in the end I think the man was ill advised. Sure his family lived in luxury while a vast majority of the empire starved and or suffered. He was not ready to surrender half powers to the failed DUMA, so that played a key role. I think people lost hope after Bloody Sunday, an incident where Nicholas was not notified of until after the fact. It is awful that people died, but I often wonder why they did not go only after him instead of killing the entire family. I think the Russo Japanese War and the personality cult of Rasputin also impacted negatively. Watch Nicholas and Alexandra (1971), a fine film, you might be interested in it.

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Yes he was a sick fck,there is no doubt about that.It makes me laugh to read comments that he was " I'll advised " "naive" "easily manipulated" hahaha,some people will come up with any excuse.He held Russia back for so long,when the world was becoming truly modern from electricity,automobiles,communications, he kept Russia in an almost Middle Ages like state.
He slaughtered innumerable people,exploited the poor and deserved to be shot

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He sadly ran things the way his father taught to and never considered changing
unlike his grandfather Alexander the second who could have prevented the
revolution had he lived. He couldn't see the world outside changing around and
sadly failed to see that he put his family in danger.

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Get over it. The Jews are doing the same to the Palestinians so you can stop playing the victim card now.

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He wasn't evil. He was oblivious and didn't know anything about ruling. He wasn't a bad man just a terrible tsar.

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Your last sentence is way over the top. No, he was nowhere even close to being in the same universe of bad as Stalin was. Nicholas II was incompetent, Stalin was a genocidal mass murderer. Nicholas' problem was that he simply didn't have the talent or temperament to be a good leader, and he was futher handicapped by the fact that his father, an extremely reactionary autocrat who undid all the liberal reforms his own father (Nicholas' grandfather) had enacted, and who deliberately kept his son excluded from Imperial Russian politics. Nicholas' father intended to wait until Nicholas turned thirty before beginnig to educate him on how to be emperor, but miscalculated his own lifespan, dying when Nicholas was just twenty-six. And as historian Barbara Tuchman put it, Nicholas inherited the throne with no concept of government but to preserve intact the absolute monarchy his father had bequeathed to him.

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Actually, based on what I read in the book "Nicholas and Alexandra," he was a wimpy mama's boy. Did you know he actually brought his mother along on his honeymoon with Alexandra?! Who the hell does that?! The problem is, Imperial Russia was only as strong as its leaders, and the only Czars that lasted long were the ones who were strong-willed and didn't take crap from anybody. Nicholas, unfortunately, was raised to rule like a British Monarch, a style ill-suited to Russian politics. The British Monarchs of the 19th and early 20th centuries could get away with being soft and well-mannered with little military experience, because their homeland was safe. Imperial Russia had no such guarantee.

Oh sure, he was very affectionate towards his family. That's a very old Russian tradition, one that still continues today. His match with Princess Alix was a rare true love match. And he loved all of his children, even the girls.

If he made any brutal orders towards his people, it was at the behest of his advisors, who were not very good either. It looked especially bad when Alexandra leaned heavily on Rasputin for emotional support and political advice, when the guy did not have hers or the country's best interests in mind. You can read into it if you want; they still sell that book on Amazon. However, keep in mind that the Communists didn't take over until after his family was arrested and assassinated.

It will also please you to know that this film and any relating to this story, can now be confirmed as myths and actual "fairy-tales," because just a few years ago, they finally found the remains of Alexi and Anastasia.

Part of what spawned this myth was when people went to investigate the site where the family was buried. See, first, the Bolsheviks shot them all dead in The House of Special Purpose, threw the bodies down a mine shaft out in the Siberian wilderness, and threw explosives in, just to make sure the Czar and his family were dead. In later years, people went to the site, and were able to dig up the skeletons of the Czar, his wife, and 3 of his 4 daughters, and brought them back to be Buried in State and made Saints in the 90s. Sadly, the skeletons of Nicholas's son and one of the younger Grand Duchesses were nowhere to be found, and it led to speculation that one of the Grand Duchesses possibly survived the Revolution and was in hiding, or escaped Russia. Turns out, the skeletons of Alexi and one of his sisters was found just a few yards outside the mine shaft, where nobody would have looked, and were brought back to be buried in State. So Grand Duchess Anastasia did not survive and was dead all this time.

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