Is this movie realistic


I don't live in US so I don't know if it's *beep* or realistic.

Do many US school's have metal detectors and lots of security and do the kids use class A drugs in school.

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Yes, a lot of schools do have metal detectors and security/police officers.

When I was in high school, I knew where some of the kids hid their pot and cigarettes, and I witnessed few kids snorting coke in class(where a teacher couldn't see them). There was also a police officer with his own office in the school. No metal detectors though.

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I suppose the US needs security and police in schools because guns are so easily available and you stay in school till 18 we leave at 16.

The UK schools are starting to become like these schools. Since i posted this question a teacher was murdered in school for the first time ever in UK, I would imagine many US teachers have been murdered especially in neighbourhood's shown in this movie

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It happens, but not as much as some would think. It's usually kids killing each other or themselves that's on the news.

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I suppose the US needs security and police in schools because guns are so easily available and you stay in school till 18 we leave at 16.

The UK schools are starting to become like these schools. Since i posted this question a teacher was murdered in school for the first time ever in UK, I would imagine many US teachers have been murdered especially in neighbourhood's shown in this movie


isn't that kind of a contradictory thing to say? You say the problems come from guns, which non-Americans seem to think are just passed out on the street, but then you say UK schools are starting to become like the school in One Eight Seven. Aren't guns pretty much unattainable in the UK? Yet you still have violence in schools and even a teacher murdered, you say. Wouldn't that seem to suggest it's a problem not associated with guns, but with sociology.

Schools like the one depicted in this film are the way they are because of the presence of gangs. Gangs deal in drugs, money, and violence...hence the presence of guns. Think of it like prison...guns can't really be smuggled into prisons...it happens occasionally, but it's rare and difficult. But that doesn't stop inmates from killing each other. They'll do it with a sharpened toothbrush if they have to.



That said, there are parts of this movie that are pretty ridiculous. Like the students threatening to sue all the time. Since tort reform, that just doesn't happen...and to sue you need a lawyer, and that costs money. In theory, since the gangbangers make money from selling drugs and whatnot, they might be able to afford one, but kids that are into that and still go to school...they're not making much on the street. But even if they had money, it's not that simple. Sure, anybody can file a lawsuit...but that doesn't mean it would cost a school district money. Every district has a lawyer(s) on retainer and no sane judge would allow a frivolous lawsuit against, say, a student suing the school because he was accused of stealing a teacher's possessions. School administrators in districts like this are more concerned with keeping things calm...with keeping a gang war from breaking out in their schools.
And the other thing...unless the kids are all 18, they're minors. And minors can't do anything in a legal sense without their parents. And even if they're 18...saying you'd sue over the school for searching a student's locker...it's just laughable. The locker is the school's property, and therefore everything in it is subject to school rules and inspection for any reason. Some schools do random locker searches, mostly for drugs, sometimes for weapons. It's not like they need probable cause...it's not private property. The reason administrators bow down is because the gangs have power through violence...and will do things like shoot up a teacher or principal's house. Not because they'll hire lawyers...


also, just to be clear, this isn't the common state of schools in the U.S. bar far. This is a depiction of a school in a very urban area with a heavy gang presence. The vast majority of U.S schools aren't like this.

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I didn't say guns are to blame for the violence I just said that's why you'd need security as guns are easy to get.

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Sounds like blacks are taking over that place.

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I'm class of 89' and grew up in venice beach California, we didn't have metal detectors . But what we didn't have, was a shortage of was gangsters ! The school was big, so we had several different gangs. My school had several drive by shootings, I've saw gangsters pulling guns and sawed off shot guns out of their lockers . To me it was sort of normal. I ditched school (hooky, cut class) and went surfing, just so I wouldn't have to deal with the gang bangers.
I can only imagine how much worse it is today .

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Sorry but school's in Britain are nothing like the one in 187, seriously... Nothing like... so you are misinformed fellow but stupid Brit.

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Well you can't read I said 'starting' to be like that there probably a few decades away from becoming that bad. If you think kids in some schools don't have weapons it's you that's misinformed I left school almost ten years ago and even then SOME kids had knives and knuckle dusters on them.

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Depends where you are.

There is some really rough and poor areas in the UK, that many have been shielded from.

My area was not rough as such, but the GCSE college I went to, two final years of school, was pretty chaotic.

The teachers chose to do a hands off approach, and the pupils were told this, first name terms, no supervision at breaks, and no discipline in classes.

The things that happened?

1 - Regular fights and damage caused in eating area.
2 - Frequently in classes loads of messing around, parties etc. teacher would usually ignore it.
3 - Smoking on site in open.

Science labs etc had no equipment as it had previously been stolen, damaged etc. Any rooms that had things of value like computers were locked when no class. The chaos also happened on the school buses, and 2 firms bailed out of it due to damage to their buses and coaches.

This was back in 1994/1995, I know its worse now given what I seen, a teacher moved in as a neighbour about 10 years ago, and we had kids throwing bricks through windows. There is also multiple reports of teachers getting bullied in their own classes, videos on tiktok and the like showing it, and harassed out of school, likewise bullying is typically worse now days, as because of social media it tends to get taken out of school. I hated the last couple of years at school, couldnt get out of there quick enough, and reading how bad it is now, its no surprise there is a shortage of teachers.

This isnt really a surprise though as physical punishment in schools is gone, this kind of thing was inevitable I think.

Also where I live school children are routinely driving stolen cars over a bridge on a park pathway, lighting fires in the park, having loud music on in the park all night, taking drugs, riding motor bikes through the park, and the local co op closed due to rampant shoplifting. The police have no power as minors are not allowed to be touched in modern Britain. Anti social behaviour is not considered important.

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technically no movie is realistic, even true stories.

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technically?
Whats the technical reason why no movie is realistic?

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No, very small minority of schools are like this.

But every school has groups of bad kids who do drugs, I guarantee even yours, wherever you live in the world.

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I graduated H.S in 2003 and i went to a suburban school...Which is basically the exact opposite of the type of school you saw in "187". It was by no means a perfect school...but it wasnt as bad as it could have been. And Metal Detectors were put in place in 2001. Of course though i grew up in the era of the beginning of Mass School Shootings.

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Does it matter if it is?

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Apparently, it is to the person who asked the question, dorkface.

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I don't live in US so I don't know if it's *beep* or realistic.

I was a teenager in northern California from the mid to late 1980s. I can confirm that the high school clothes, hair and makeup was accurate for that time period. The only thing that seemed updated to the late 1990s were the shoes.

The school layout, with main building and bungalow classrooms, isn't something I've seen before. Maybe that's a difference between north and south California schools?




No two persons ever watch the same movie.

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