The SM anime you grew up watching is nothing like the real Sailor Moon Japanese series. I'm glad we had original language version here in Poland - you could feel the spirit of the 90's Japan and also enjoy the AMAZING voice-acting of Japanese seiyuus like Kotono Mitsuishi. What they did with English/American dubbing, is just a silly parody, so... watch the real thing ASAP.
shareThe American dub of Sailor Moon isn't nearly as bad as the travesty that was the American version of Card Captor Sakura. They cut the first 8 episodes, changed some of the main story points, and had terrible voice acting.
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The Viz English dub is actually well done IMO,way better than the Dic Dub.
Its not impossible to make a good English Dub,The Dragon Ball Z Kai dub is actually good as well. I will some English Dubs sounded terrible back in the day,but they are getting better at making them
If only Proper Pokemon and YugiOh Dubs can be made I would very happy
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The only DBZ dub that ever sounded any good to me was the first run of Ocean episodes. That was akin to the Sailor Moon dub where the changes were vast and it sort of became its own unique thing. I agree the Kai dub is an improvement over Funimation's past dubs but it still isn't very good IMHO. The voices sound too goofy to me.
Dubs definitely can be just as good as the Japanese version sometimes, though. Gundam Wing would be my first example. I prefer the Japanese version but the voice actors they cast for the dub sound astoundingly similar to their counterparts in the original. Even the vocal inflections between the two versions were often the same. Also noteworthy since it was one of the first Toonami shows where the DVDs were uncut and dual-language, back in the days when most anime was still edited to Hell like DBZ and Sailor Moon.
But I digress.... There are plenty of good dubs out there. In the end, which version someone prefers is, of course, up to them.
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The only DBZ dub that ever sounded any good to me was the first run of Ocean episodes. That was akin to the Sailor Moon dub where the changes were vast and it sort of became its own unique thing. I agree the Kai dub is an improvement over Funimation's past dubs but it still isn't very good IMHO. The voices sound too goofy to me.
Dubs definitely can be just as good as the Japanese version sometimes, though.
Gundam Wing would be my first example
But I digress.... There are plenty of good dubs out there. In the end, which version someone prefers is, of course, up to them.
I'm going to have to respectfully think you're utterly insane. A few are great, but most of Funimation's DBZ voice cast sounds like they're perpetually constipated and sadly they still do even in the latest version. Most of them don't sound like they're taking the character seriously, like "err grr rawr" they sound more like they're voicing Smokey The Bear than a character in a straight-faced show. Which is a shame because a lot of them are actually fantastic voice actors, clearly the direction they're being given is "sound more cartoonish, take this less seriously." And young Gohan in Kai is just hilarious... like, wow no attempt at all to sound like a male. I've dated 20-something year old girls who sound more like a young male character than Kai's Gohan.
The Ocean Dub had terrible music
I never said there were not any good dubs
I'm going to have to respectfully think you're utterly insane
A few are great, but most of Funimation's DBZ voice cast sounds like they're perpetually constipated and sadly they still do even in the latest version.
on's DBZ voice cast sounds like they're perpetually constipated and sadly they still do even in the latest version. Most of them don't sound like they're taking the character seriously, like "err grr rawr" they sound more like they're voicing Smokey The Bear than a character in a straight-faced show. Which is a shame because a lot of them are actually fantastic voice actors, clearly the direction they're being given is "sound more cartoonish, take this less seriously."
And young Gohan in Kai is just hilarious... like, wow no attempt at all to sound like a male. I've dated 20-something year old girls who sound more like a young male character than Kai's Gohan.
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The thing that's great about the Ocean dub and the DiC dub is that they go their own way and become their own unique show.
I'm glad that people who don't like subs get to see a closer version to the original of Sailor Moon and DBZ now,
but compared to the original these new versions still suck balls.
I definitely agree that Kai is Funimation's best attempt yet. But it's still not on par with what the Ocean Group did at the beginning. Sure they cut out a lot of stuff, but, heh, so did Kai. A lot of that crap needed to be cut out to make the show stronger and tighter.
You say the cast does not sound like they are taking the character seriously thats how the Ocean Dub sounded
Thats the best Young Gohan in an English Dub we have seen the voice is great
I got ask whats unique about those dubs?
How the hell can you say the current Dubs for Sailor Moon and DBZ suck Balls and are not as good as the original,when they actually are alot closer to the original and enjoy those early dubs that are nothing like the original?
What did Kai Cut out?
Its not just Funimation's best Attempt its the best Attempt at a DBZ English Dub period
In other words the "I'm not a poopy-head, you're a poopy-head!" tactic. You literally just took what I said and repeated it in reverse.
The Ocean voice actors were a group of established North American cartoon voice actors and they voiced it like a serious American cartoon. Funimation's voice actors make it sound exactly like a parody, they sound like they could be working on DBZ Abridged instead.
Have to disagree with you, the previous Gohan actually wasn't so bad. Especially compared to the new Kai one that sounds like a girl.
You mean other than the fact that the Ocean Group slipped a lot of the filler out of Z almost 15 years before Kai? That was pretty unique. What's unique about those dubs is that they have their own style, independent from that of the original. It's crap compared to the original, but at least it stands on its own.
I love the original DBZ/Kai and the original Sailor Moon. Watching a dubbed version that is the same except it has terrible voices, well that makes me want to bash my head into the wall!
But watching a version that is so completely different that it's not even remotely the same, well I don't care about the changes then. Because it's like it's a completely different show. The same way that the film Starcrash was a blatant Italian ripoff of Star Wars, the Ocean & Dic dubs could almost have been blatant North American ripoffs of DBZ and Sailor Moon. They're so far removed from the originals that I can appreciate them as if they're entirely different shows -- poor, derivative shows, but charming in their own way.
Almost half the series. That was literally the entire point of Kai!
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My point is that, while their motives were a lot more sinister, the Ocean Group effectively did the same thing as Kai did: cut out some of the filler from Z.
Weeeeee're. gonna just have to agree to disagree here. Thanks for the chat, though. It's always fun to discuss DBZ.
I still like our dub of Sailor Moon even if it wasn't a faithful dub.
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They definitely should not have edited out Japanese culture and Neptune/Uranus's romance, although the only openly gay or bi male characters being villains was weird in the original, but maybe written with some good intentions, but the old dub did have some charm, and I still like it. I just pretend Uranus and Neptune are disguised as cousins. I always saw them as a couple.
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