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Not a single black face


Did anyone else notice this? Not a single black actor in the entire film - not even as a background extra.

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Not true, a few times the showed a young black boy. I dont see how you could have missed it. He was even there for the final fight scene.

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Is there a point to this observation?

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The point is the observation itself - the observation is the point!

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How many black people could there have been in Scotland during this time period? And what relevance would they have to the plot, that they should be given a noticeable role?

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I guess the problem is that your initial statement is wrong. There is a black actor and he is a background extra. Were you so blinded by hate that you missed this? Other people have made this complaint about movies and therefore there are now tokens in films. I never really understood the arguement especially with period films. As a previous poster alludes to, how many blacks could there realistically have been in early 18th century Scotland? Be realistic.

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the little coloured child I think was a reference to the fasions of the day and a reminder of slavery. Young black boys were kept as servants by rich people as a kind of fasion accessory. At least that I have read before.

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You're right, I've just watched the film again and I dont know how I could have missed it.

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Which leaves the question: why weren't there any Asian people in Rob Roy?

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And did anyone else notice? I didn't see even one Native American Indian or an Eskimo during the entire movie. Not to mention Polynesians. Obviously an intensely racist movie...tsk, tsk.

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And there were no gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgendered people. F-in biased producers!

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Well, there is the possibility that Cunningham was "bisexual" (if there is such a thing), because he admitted to the Duke of Argyll that he once buggered a boy because he thought he was a girl until the moment of entry. Or was he joking? ;-)

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Not quite right - he said that he had thought of a girl at the moment of entry.
Incidentally there wasn't a single black face because this now ubiquitous breed
of sheep wasn't in fact introduced to the Highlands until the late-eighteenth century
(Robert Roy MacGregor died in 1734).

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No, you are incorrect.

Cunningham said, "It's been years since I buggered a boy. And in my own defense, I thought him a girl until the moment of entry."

Then Argyle and Guthrie laughted, and Argyle responded that Cunningham could not tell arse from quim.

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From http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114287/quotes

Archibald Cunningham: "It is years, Your Grace, since I buggered a boy... And in my own defense[sic.], I must add, I thought him a girl at the moment of entry."

I have the uncensored US DVD http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=301

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In a way it would be ok if he was bi, because then the film has a claim to more "diversity" and is fit to be shown in American public schools.

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Touche, jambrose.

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Actually, "I thought him a girl" means, "I thought he was a girl" not "I was thinking of a girl."

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Actually, "I thought him a girl" means, "I thought he was a girl" not "I was thinking of a girl."

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Well that clears it up then - he didn't know either way until the moment of entry, when he thought him a girl, then realising his mistake thought 'oh, bugger it!'

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if you watch closely, the little lad is always nervous when Cunningham is near and inches closer to Montross.

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Well, there were Englishmen...

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There aren't any Aborigines! That's so insulting! And don't give me that lame excuse that Cook travelled there 60 years later! That's a racist response

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There aren't any Aborigines! That's so insulting!


Huh? you aren't really that stupid are you? White people ARE the aborigines of Europe, anyone with half a brain knows that. Go ahead and call me racist but its the truth.

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Or Native Americans?
Huh? what about them?

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: ) ha ha

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the movie really needs a wise-cracking black guy. that or a sexually ambiguous black guy like Chris Tucker in Fifth Element. maybe both.

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Is there a point to this observation?


I'd say no.

a) Montrose has a black servant boy, who is in numerous scenes.
b) It's not like 17th century Scotland teeming with brothers.



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But if it was a all black movie with no white americans or europeans it would be ok. I mean there were probably tons of Black men and women back in those days.

I mean you can't win either people bi t ch and complain because there are no black men or women in said movie or the complain because the white man is keeping them in bondage or slavery. come on pick one or the other. Bill Cosby even said it was time to move on and stop bit ching.

Oh yeah it's ok to have an all black college university, but if the white man did the same exact thing it would be construded as racist. lol
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Oh yeah it's ok to have an all black college university, but if the white man did the same exact thing it would be construded as racist. lol


Good heavens...do you honestly not know that the reason historically black colleges (which are called "historically" because they have people of other races attending these days) exist is that for centuries black people were not allowed in colleges and universities? Seriously??

Because white people did exclude black people from higher education, and yes, it was indeed racist, not just "construded" to be so.

Mercy.

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A better question is why weren't there any black rappers in the film?

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yeah why didnt 50 cent play rob roy?

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I noticed that there was a distinct lack of Canadians in this film. As a Canadian, should I be offended by this?

Please, no blacks actors... are you for real?

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I am so freaking mad at this film! The nerve of those racist commie punks in Hollywood not including every single ethnicity, sexual orientation, mixed marriages, step families, breed of dog, all houses from the Klingon Empire, and at least 1 Ewok. When will Hollywood stop being so racist!


Anyways get over yourself, like the others said, IT;S A MOVIE SET IN A PLACE AND TIME WHERE THE POPULATION WAS 99.6% WHITE! stop trying to change history because you don't like it and are trying to hate monger. if a movie was made about 13th century China, i wouldn't expect to see any white OR black actors in it.

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Where are the Arabs? And Quebecois? And I'm pretty damned sure I didn't see any Isrealis either...
What an insanely racist movie...BOYCOTT!

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"if a movie was made about 13th century China, i wouldn't expect to see any white OR black actors in it. "

Then you haven't seen "The Great Wall". lol.

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Didn't you notice Montrose's servant was black?
That probably answers your question since I'm assuming the ones that were there were servants or slaves and not free.

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This is Scotland in the 1700s. There would be more mosquitos than there would be black people.

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Not mosquitos, but Marys, munros and midges.

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has anyone checked what races of mosquitoes were represented?

mosquitoism is rampant in holywood.

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The soldier who ran at Rob when he was picking up wounded Alasdair was black

I'm gonna make this pencil... disappear.

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"has anyone checked what races of mosquitoes were represented?"

Actually the Midget Fly "Midgie" ethnic group of Mosquitoes was represented.

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Actually, you are absolutely WRONG! Montrose had a black servant, a boy, standing right at his side during a long scene.
Aside from servants here and there, 18th century Scotland wasn't exactly the "hood".
Cmon man....I see what you're getting at, and your complaint is a bit outdated don't you think?
Are african americans supposed to show up in period pieces now too, even though they would be out of place for that particular time in history, just for the sake of having a "black face" in a movie? People can go too far in the name of equality sometimes, and your comment, is one of those times!

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