Why is this film not on the top 250
This is one of the finest films ever made. Why does it not make the top 250? Shawshank Redemption? Sure, good movie, but it's no babe.
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Babe is a great film.
But the IMDB top 250 voters are mostly young men (under 30).
So the top 250 includes lots of war/action movies that I don't personally think are as good/memorable/touching as Babe.
Heck, ET isn't in the IMDB top 250.
Don't get me wrong, I like the site.
But you've got to take the ratings in context.
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No, friend, I did not say that.
I implied (and believe) E.T. is one of the best 250 movies.
My point is that the IMDB rankings is dominated by young men.
That's why you find La Haine rated higher than Babe and E.T.
Check the demographic braekdowns by age group and sex for those 3 films and you'll find what I'm saying.
If IMDB was a site dominated by people under 18 or over 40, the rankings would be different, don't you think?
As to which films are better, isn't that unique to each individual?
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Shawkshank Redemption is a horribly overrated dense retelling of the Book of Job. Babe, while on the surface appears to be a simple story about not judging a book by its cover is a much more subtle symbolist retelling of the relationship between God and man from the sacrifice of Isaac to the New Testament, while making far more relevant statements on redemption and the changing values system from the rural life to modern cosmopolitanism. Its symbolism is far more moving and deeply spiritual if one chooses to scratch the surface. There is a reason this film got a best picture nod. Don't get me wrong, I like Shawshank, but it doesn't delve into to the same deep theological and philisophical concepts that are explored by Babe.
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What if babe had been in Shawshank and Andy had worked on the farm? Just think of the theological implications!
I disagree when you say msot of the movies are war/action.
Kubrick did a lot of war and so did Coppola that is where most fo them come from.
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Well, I didn't say MOST of the IMDB top 250 are war/action. I think I said there are many war/action movies that are more highly rated on IMDB than Babe, E.T., The Sound of Music and other non-war/action movies.
If you ever look at Time Magazine Top 100, American Film Institute, NYTimes Top 1000 - you won't find Fight Club, Memento, The Matrix, American History X, Alien, Sin City, Terminator 2, Kill Bill, etc. rated highly, if at all.
Looking at these movies that are highly rated on IMDB, maybe I shouldn't have said war genre films are more highly rated by the IMDB crowd.
cause the movie is a metaphor for cops
sharefact is, the screenplay, direction and film editing in Babe is even better than in Shawshank, which never stops recalling almost every single prison movie cliché ever taken to the screen...
... and Babe works in so many levels, it can be considered also a gentle and still twisted version of Orwell's Animal Farm. To me, Babe is the 2nd best film of the 90's second only to Danny Boyle's only truly great movie, Trainspotting.
Shawshank is a really great movie, almost a masterpiece. But I think The Green Mile is actually even better and The Mist inmensely more haunting and ballsy. It isn't even Darabont's best work.
You do realize that not every film is meant to be a biblical allegory right?
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Easy, Babe is better than Shawshank, that while a great movie, is a compilation of clichés of prison movies, one after another for more than two hours, extending to the extreme what King conceived as a short story.
I remember when Shawhank opened in Spain, there was a TV critic that made the comparison of these cliches, each one with a clear or famous precedent in a prison classic.
The Green Mile, actually, is better and more "original" than Shawshank Redemption. Babe is lower for one single reason: is a "childrens" movie for most and they don't notice or care the social and even political commentary that lies under its surface.
To me, Babe is the 2nd best movie of the 90's, right behind Trainspotting.
who cares if it's in the top 250, let's just be grateful it exists.
I love this film and I don't need the top 250 to justify my love.
Top 250 films?????? are you serious??? I... I... sigh* Apologize before I turn off the internet.
shareYou mention all the films that are in the top 250 but on the other lists,Well its because every critic who makes up those lists are a little biased towards older films as im sure we will be in how ever many years.
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I agree this is one of my favorites and there are many other films that should be on the top that aren't...
1. Do The Right Thing
2. Sideways
3. Kramer vs. Kramer
4. Out of Africa
5. The Last Emperor
6. Driving Miss Daisy
7. Midnight Cowboy
8. The Untouchables
9. Serpico
10. The French Connection
11. Deliverance
12. The Dirty Dozen
13. Field of Dreams
14. The Man Who Would Be King
15. Blowup
16. American Graffiti
17. Babe
18. E.T. The Extra Terrestrial
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I have to admit Babe is one of the best live action family films. It should be on the top 250.
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I agree. It is such an enchanting classic, that is very sweet, well meaning, funny and with a couple of tearjerkers too. 10/10 in my book.
IMDB rating system is perhaps the most flawed system invented to date. Any troll can create multiple accounts and to vote 1 or 10 "certain" films just "because".
Films that I am sure those trolls haven't even watched.
Speaking about the films that have received extremely poor ratings: They aren't crappy films. Au contraire, they are amongst the best films directed by several of the greatest filmmakers of all time. Directors like Renoir, Mizoguchi, Dreyer, Buñuel, Kurosawa, etc.
Don't believe me?
Just watch this:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057565/ratings-usa
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0048452/ratings-usa
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047445/ratings-usa
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056732/ratings-usa
SO don't pay attention to a mere popularity contest (IMDB Top 250) that has no credibility nor relevance at all.