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Ruined by spoilers against LGBT


Spoiler alert.

This was sold as a sexy love story with political undertones.

But as soon as it got some attention, everybody had to tell us that she was a dude. Including Jim Carrey.

The twist is essential for this movie.
The way mainstream culture had to spoil it was brutal, unfair and ignorant.

I bet my balls it had everything to do with the zero respect transgenderism had back then, so it was ok to ruin this film's viewing for everybody "normal", almost warning them of the real nature.

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Hmmm, I was floored by it as was my now-wife. But I'll admit we went in knowing only that it was a must-see indie film.

Of course I had many friends who claimed it was obvious, especially from Jaye's manly hands, but a number of them admitted it was only obvious in retrospect.

People tend to accept the reality with which they're presented.

That said, me and the missus had a huge laugh at the end credits; both kids of the 80s, we immediately recognized the voice of our own generation's most famous cross-dresser, Boy George.

I also recall Billy Crystal at the Oscars saying he specifically wouldn't spoil it except to say, "White men CAN jump."

So who knows? It's been thirty years, very nearly. I still know people who haven't been spoiled by "Sixth Sense" (another film that floored me when I first saw it, but that was still within the first few weeks).

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Great for you.
But it sounds like you were lucky enough to see it early on in its theatrical run.
I saw it on vhs as soon as it came out and the cat was already out of the bag internationally.

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Hmmm, now that you mention it, the moment Billy Crystal made that joke, the camera cut to Jaye Davidson.

THAT's an unavoidable spoiler.

And of course he went on to win the Oscar that year.

Yeah, definitely spoiled. Though I don't know that it was about "zero respect transgenderism" so much as zero understanding in the mainstream. It was too big a secret to keep quiet back then.

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Too big a secret...because SHE had a DICK!!!!!!!
Scandal! Shocking! Gotta warn everyone! It's a cookbook!

Come on, rhe general attitude was of shock and disgust and ridicule, zero respect for the issue or the work of art itself, they treated the whole deal with the same sensibility used by the lowlyest Diana chasing paparazzo.

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Did they ever show it?

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In the movie? Yeah.
Everywhere else? Nope, they just use any kind of innuendo.

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I always thought it was a crappy twist really. Like that’s it this whole film and she’s a he. Ok weird especially for the time but what about the rest of the story?

I found the film to be mostly dull. I was more interested in seeing more of the IRA.

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That's the WHOLE movie. The twist and how it affected the protagonists.

Why do you need a rest of the story? (which, BTW, was pretty thick too, considering all the IRA and opposite factions backstory and killing a guy and getting his gf....what the hell did you expect more than that?)

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I was just more interested at the start and as it progressed I gradually lost interest. I guess the she is a he part didn't intrigue me that much.

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Again, I think that was the whole intention. To provide a REAL twist, changing even the genre of the movie from political war to romantic to weird romance.

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Yeah I get what your saying and I get what the filmmakers were going for.

But again for me, I just wasn’t amazed by it.

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I was neither, but I knew what the twist was before going in, which I think ruined it.
It's like if hey spoil who Keyser Soze is. The film is ruined.

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There's no spoiler soytard Jay wasn't even a passable trans ...Only if you were 11 or something and this movie wasn't made for kids

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Passable trans as in the ones you like to watch when you play with your own dick?

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Wow so hateful so transphobic so much projection.PURE Sociopath

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Exactly my reaction. But add pedophiliac too.
Or were you the 11 yo dreaming of a passable trans in your example?

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You're a total self hating lunatic get help before you hurt yourself or someone else

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What a lame ass attempt at trolling. It's not even remotely related to anything.

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This movie came out in the early 90s when people weren't getting their panties in a wad over WOKE culture. In other words, WHO CARES! IT'S A MOVIE.....ENJOY IT or DON'T.

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That is one of the most useless, missing-the-point replies I have ever read.

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I don’t think Frank Drebin had even seen the movie. 😀
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kXBTqS_Vu30

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Yeah, same sort of spoiler but at least in TNG3 there is no direct reference as in Ace Ventura.

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