i think this movie is racist

yes, I do think that's racist.....putting ANY race in that situation is being racist no matter black, white, red, or yellow.

""do you see black people in friends so shut up the hell up""

...yes I do. Ross AND Joey dates a black girl (the same one in fact) over a number of episodes.

What is really conspicuous about this movie is that EVERYONE (except for a few like a waitress and the slave-guys pulling a chariot and the odd salesperson who is made out to be a racist) is black.

Where it would naturally happen that some TV-shows and movies would be more or less all white because only about 13% of the US population is black, this movie is forcefully all black. Black race is made into a point in this movie - unlike in Friends or the like.

"1. waitress in the beginning, (M. Lawrence said she was racist, made her look like a jackass) "

Jim, I have to completely disagree with you on this. It was made quite obvious that, while the waitress was being professional and courteous, Martin looked for any reason to call her racist. Come on: tip vs spears?? Did you seriously think that was or was supposed to be a serious indication that the waitress was being racists?? The waitress was specifically made courteous and non-racist as a device to show Martin's racist paranoia!

Also, what you have failed to address over and over again and seem to be avoiding is the fact that all the executives from Europe, seemingly, the ones who held the real power, were all white. None of them were made to be racists or as some negative stereotype.

Before I can consider your argument any further, I need you explain how "all" the white people in the movie were depicted in a negative light. If I had, had a waitress give me the kind of service the one gave them in the movie, I would have given her a generous tip. I didn't see anything wrong with her behavior. The executives were not bumbling idiots or stupid or did anything to indicate negative behavior at all. Convince me of how these groups of characters mentioned above are shown in a racist manner. Otherwise, what you're saying really amounts to nit-picking of the one racist character in the movie; the clothing salesman. And that, by no means, is far-fetched.

jim-764

It is interesting that you don't seem to want to defend your original post. In fact you only seem to respond to posts that are off-topic. This is very interesting given that numerous posters have courteously responded to your original premise with some excellent arguments. From your original post you state:

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these are the only white people in the whole movie:

1. waitress in the beginning, (M. Lawrence said she was racist, made her look like a jackass)
2. salesman at clothing store, (again made him a racist and made him look like a complete *beep*
3. 4 brute guys carrying grace jones in her premier. these guys were chained and treated like reindeer.

those were the only white people in the movie. to me, it seemed the makers of the movie went out of their way to send a message.
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Point 1 - Numerous people have pointed out that the waitress was not portrayed as racist. I have no idea why you believe she was made to look like a jackass. The Martin Lawrence character is the one who is made to look bad, as shown by the fact that his friends look at him like he is crazy after his over the top statements!

Point 2 - Again, numerous black male posters have stated that they have experienced less than professional behavior from white salespeople in high-end apparel stores.

Point 3 - The Grace Jones character is "Strange" hence her name. Having her carried in by four white "bearers" reinforces this strange image and also plays to a "tongue-in-cheek" out-of-the wild stereotype. In this vignette, maybe where she is from, she is the only dark-skinned female and as a result is "worshiped" by an all-white populace. Again, as the other posters have shown, this is a "role-reversal" of the many movies/shows (think Sheena) where the lone white female is venerated by the dark-skinned people.

In any case, user Svendrick_Stonehege has done an excellent job of pointing out many of these same issues with your original post as well. He also pointed out that these three situations where hardly the only white characters in the movie. I want to up the ante by saying that it is OK to start a debate, but at least own up when you points get demolished. Not responding directly to well-reasoned counterpoints makes me wonder - Is this movie really racist or is it just your perception? You claim to check this thread every 6 months, so it will be interesting to see what you say next.

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