What happened? When did Bastian turn into this blonde, hunky teenager? When did Attryu get a very heavy tan? When did the Rock-biter get a squeaky voice? When did the Childlike Emperess curl her hair? When did the Ivory Tower turn into some 80's Duran Duran album cover? Did I pass out for a hundred years? Is everyone in Fantasia on drugs? Are we on drugs? God what happened? OH GOD WHAT HAPPENED?!
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Actually I don't remember that qoute from Back to the Future 2. Wow, thats pretty scary. I wasn't copying anything. I was serious.
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If I did, it was entirly coincedental. Seriously, what happened? What were they trying to do exactly? I mean Barret Pliver wasn't that old. He could have played Bastian again. Things got seriously twisted.
shareYour initial post on this thread cracked me up, and is so true. I haven't seen this flick in a long time, but having loved the first one, I'd looked forward to seeing the sequel.
It doesn't quite draw you in like the first, and has so many discrepancies from the original that it doesn't quite work. I do like the ending where Bastian wishes the soreceress/queen/whatever had a heart, and that's how he "wins."
Still, probably wasn't a good idea to make a lackluster sequel to a movie that is so close to the hearts of its fans.
Its more like a remake of The Neverending story with a different story. Its a futuristic sequal. Its scary. Its runined. I think I've made myself clear.
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The first part had that kind of magic in it....The sequels are garbage!!!!
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I kind of find this comment funny, being one of the ignorant americans. Lord of the Rings is actually 3 movies. And it isnt really just one long story either. But since that isnt what this board is about, i just wanted to quote some ignorant foreigner saying something like "Read before making a fool of urselves!"
shareThe fact that we all called this a sequal is pretty irelavent. (sorry if thats misspelled but after all, I am an ignorant american) it doesn't change the fact that the charactors and all of the surroundings were drastically changed and altered. Forget that its a sequal or a continuation, it still ruined the franchise.
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And what are we wrong about this time?
You know what I think? I think your mum breast-fed you longer than was appropriate, and now you're getting withdrawal symtoms.
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OK, the MOVIE was made to be a SEQUEL to the ORIGINAL movie. I know that both movies were from the same book, but the people here aren't complaining about the book, they're complaining about the second movie in this trilogy, also known as a SEQUEL. So 'scuse us for being "ignorant americans" but it isn't our nationalities that make us ignorant, its that fact that we JUDGE people (that was supposed to be a HINT, but I'm assuming you got that since you're not one of us "ignorant americans").
And by the way, I totally agree that the second movie (cough cough sequel cough cough) was so much worse than the first. The thing that bugs me the most about it is Falkor's eyes. In the first movie they were pretty brown, like a puppy's eyes. In the second they were blood red. Is Falkor supposed to be evil or something?
There are no happy endings, because nothing ever ends.
I hate to say it man but you did say lord of the rings was only two movies. :)
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1=good stuff, tacky, but good stuff to watch with your kids
2=crap
just like Lord of the Rings it was such a long story that they divided it in 2 movies.
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Ok, I was wrong. There, happy now? You have to admit that your wording was a little off. I guess all of us "Ignorant Americans" thought you were using Lord of the Rings as an example, and we were simply mistaken.
BTW, I am a 37 yr. old smartass kid. I take no offense, bro, just don't fly off the handles at everyone.
I am done with all of the IMDB forums. When you have 5 year olds and people just wanting to start flame wars posting, that's going a little too far. Not to mention being insulted because I'm an American. There are some really thought-provoking questions and comments from some users, but I just get feed up with all the "bad and mean" threads much like this one has turned into. They far out-weigh the good threads.
Maybe if they moderated these threads somewhat, there would be less of a problem.
-Brad
I'll start with saying I'm french, so, my english... erh...
Hm, i agree with the beginning and the end of this thread. First, Schuwawerpserxech's (is it Austrian ?) post ripped my pants in pieces, as it was both very funny and accurate. Neverending 2 has anyway one good point : it pushes you to watch the prequel, sequel, erh whatsoever the other one. I mean, NeverEnding Story 1. Come on, you understood.
And I also totally agree with peterParker, whom side I join against people like raven. Ignoring that Neverending 2 isn't a sequel isn't enough, for me, to make a whole people ignorant. Even americans. And yet, I'm french !
BTW, i ignored that too, so I guess all frenchies are now ignorants. I hope my fellow countrymen will forgive me.
You seem to have a very narrow vision of things over the world, which is sad. Not to insult you, raven, but your post simply deserves silence. Yeah, i understand the paradox of this very post. So...
Clic !
(and PeterParker, as all the other non-Raven363-like, I invite you to join my silence, in all posts, to keep mind opened on interesting ones )
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Okay, first of all maybe all the "ignorant Americans" wouldnt of thought you were talking abot LOTR if you had in fact put a comma AFTER LOTR. Other wise it looks like your talking about it still when your said that it was devided it into 2 movies...dumbass!
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Although this topic is 2 years old I have to call you an idiot raven. At least us Americans know how to structure a sentance and use the proper grammar when trying to prove a point.
shareYou're not alone, I liked it, maybe even more than the original. I don't like the actors as much as in the original, but Bastian was just...rather dumb in the first one.
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ok i am going to jump on in
Raven... this is exactly cut an dpaste what you wrote
neverending story 2 isnt a sequel. The original book written by Michael Ende is about the 2 movies; just like Lord of the Rings it was such a long story that they divided it in 2 movies. Read before making a fool of urselves!
how in the hell are we supposed to think that you are not talking about the lord of the rings when you say "just like the lord of the rings it was such a long story they divided it into 2 movies." Not even the smartest person in THE WORLD would know that you were referring to Neverending story instead of LOTR. Your grammar makes zero sense and your comparison sucks. Who the hell do you think you are anyway to come on here and call people stupid when you obviously can't even make a fair comparison. Unbelievable. Anthing that has three movies in a sequence are called the original, the sequel, and then when the third comes out it is now called a trilogy. So no matter what you are wrong. And I must say it feels good to be right. Power to the BRILLIANT Americans.
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i am pretty old to be called a kid. Past 25 is no longer "kid" territory.
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was that supposed to be insulting? i don't think anywhere in my writing was more or less childish than anyone else. including you. what are you even referring to? i gave my opinion just as you did. what is childish about that? and so what. this whole site has turned childish, instead of talking about movies all anyone does is strike up fights so i participated. i think you were out of line when you said we are all idiots. if that is not childish, then i don't know what is.
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Well raven363, it would be easier to take you seriously if you actually spelled out words instead of butchering them.... In any case, I agree with the other "Ignorant Americans," who seem to be the ones who aren't so ignorant. But I could be wrong, after all, I too am an American.
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...troll..... or shall i say kid troll...
"When people tell me they are happy my ass begins to twitch."
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1. i dident coppy youre phrases
2. whatz ya gonna do about it?? ey?
3. youre the kid troll dumba$$!!
"When people tell me they are happy my ass begins to twitch."
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....well... im not english or american so i dont need to learn anything.. prikk..
"you realise very quickly that the world is full of idiots".-Sean Connery
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Raven363- Have you run out of arguments? Is that why you keep repeating yourself? Also, IMDb is where you discuss MOVIES- NOT the ignorance, or lack of, of another country's people. What are you- a terrorist? (ooo ouch that one is gonna flare up some discussion...sorry fellow Americans I didn't mean to bring up a hurtful subject.) Just because A GROUP OF AMERICANS (not everyone in America) decided to make this movie you don't need to insult us all. You, of course, have the RIGHT to...but it just isn't GOOD MANNERS. Even my 3-year-old cousin Bella knows how to use good manners. Play nice. And in the words of a kick-ass hat "I'm Rad. You're Rad. Let's Hug."
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Er, your post was aggressive as soon as you said '(americans) they are so ignorant'. That was bound to start something and you knew it.
Im from England, so what do you think of us brits?
Where are you from anyways?
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Read my post carefully and you'll understand why I said it sounded agressive. You said americans are ignorant, so, obviously, people will get offended.
Do you like insulting people? Because one day you're gonna insult the wrong person....
"Hello, Joey, our little match-maker! I could just kiss you all over and I'm gonna!" - Janice
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hahahaha.....
You call people kids yet you certainly act like one yourself. Irony is so great.
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...What a *beep* moron...
I just had to add in with all the insulting of raven, after reading all those posts I got really really aggravated with Raven's attempts to make him feel better by copying and pasting smartass comments. So Raven, keep going with it, but as of this point I got the last *beep* post, so go make just one more smartass comment if you really wanna try to declare yourself anymore of an idiot or you can let it pass, and remain just a little less annoying. Sorry im out.... good luck getting shot in the face raven ^_^
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raven, you are such a loser. Truth hurts, right kid?! Burns inside you!! hahahaha!!!
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whatever loser kid, hahahaha...
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Exactly, though i'm kinda confused why YOU are laughing when it should just be me.
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Wow, you are a moron dude. If you think that what you said doesn't imply that Lord of the Rings was divided into 2 movies, then you are either a complete idiot or have terrible language skills. You pathetic little kid. Grow up.
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HELLO?!?!?!
There are only 8 replys to the original! Can we get back to that? And stop this stupid fight over whether or not the "truth hurts"!!!
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This is really funny, i don't know if raven is just trying to piss everyone off or he's just stupid.
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This Raven guy is hillarious! Didn't know IMDB allowed anyone younger than 13 to sign up on the message forums. Anyways...
Back to the topic at hand, I watched this movie when I was really young. So young in fact that I can't remember most of it. I remember enjoying the first and second one actually. But based on what people are saying (or were saying, rather) the second one isn't quite as good. I still want to see both again. It'd be like watching them for the first time again, really. :)
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Gee, I didn't know we were hitting one each other here! Why do you keep bringing up the same argument to everyone? "omfg, u such a kid!!1" You can't even spell right. When a person has to spell "u" instead of spelling it the way you're supposed to spell it "you" that's a sure sign right there that you're an imature little brat.
But whatever, I didn't come here to argue with you, I came to talk about these movies. Somehow you misunderstood that as a direct insult to you so you felt the need to defend yourself. Well you did I guess. But rather poorly because it was the same thing you've brought up with everyone else.
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I'm quite skilled with a computer so I know that only idiots use that butchered language. It's a sign of laziness and stupidity when you have to type u, ppl, ur etc. Hell, you don't even capatelize your I's! Just because you're on a computer, what makes you think people will respect you if you type like a moron? Or maybe you failed first grade English class so you feel like you have to simplify your writing/typing.
Using that method of typing makes you yourself look like a kid because it's not propor English. I can guarantee you right here an now that everyone who meets you on the net will not show you any sign of respect if you type like a lazy ass. Unless they themselves are bad spellers. Proof of this can be found by everyone elses comments to you on this thread alone.
And don't even bother to speak to me about intellect until you can use the English language the way it was MEANT to be used. I suggest you go back to school and actually pay attention to what you're teacher is telling you. Also try to pick up some common sence. It'll go a long way.
On the subject of the movies at hand, I'm beggining to wonder if they even exist anymore. All the stores and video rentals either don't carry any copies of either the first or the second, or the person I ask is too young to know what the hell I'm even talking about.
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Yes I did. About 20 years ago. You, obviously, did not.
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schauweckerpsx....
It's not at all a remake. It's the second half of the book. Which they butchered.
He was 14/15 when this movie was being filmed/came out! He was too old!
"My dad is Buddhist, my mom is Roman-Catholic, so I normally tell people I'm Jewish."
-Lynn Chang
yall might think im crazy but i think that the second one was WAY better then the first one...but that could b because i watched the 2nd one first for YEARS before i watched the first (because my big brother taped it win he was younger) or it could be because i think bastian is really hot in the 2nd one n ugly in tha first OR it could b because i havent watched the 1st one all the way through yet...i LUV this movie n i dont think theres anything wrong with it...im not a big fan of the first one though cuz it cant keep my attention
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I don't think Raven originally meant that Lord of the Rings was divided into just two movies. He rather should have said "Like Lord of the Rings, the book had to be divided into multiple movies." Although with his horrible spelling, grammer and manners, I can see why nobody can understand him. Correct use of spelling, commas, spaces, and basic punctuation would help you progress further than your current elementary level of English. Turth hurts, doesn't it kid? Ha ha ha.
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Good God people im 15 and i dont act like this can we please get back to the movie i think the neverending story 2 is a good movie but it coulda been put together better but the acting was really good i thought jonathan brandis is an awesome job as bastian R.I.P Jonathan Brandis well will always miss u
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honestly dude ur *beep* stupid, i understood ur referring to the lotr comment, dont know why anybody else didnt, but beyond that argument ur just a moron who has to learn when to quit, and im sure this post will be responded to by a "kid hahah" comment, but none the less ur a retard
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tell those kids to behave...kid
I actually liked the second one too. if you have read the book(which i recomend), you will see that the sequal is actually the second half of the book. now as for the curly hair and different looking actors, and the different scenery, i don't know where they where going with that. And daer god do not see the strait-to-video third one, it was a thorny piece of *beep*
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OMG. Are you serious? kids huh? since you have called everyone on this messageboard a kid how about you admit yu are a child yourself. You grammer leaves alot to be desired. how about "you are" instead of "ur". Not to mention the 100 more mistakes you have made. I admit it I make mistakes and I probably did in this post but you are the one who came here talking trash about earn how to read fools. So quit making an arse out of yourself and don't come back because you look like a "fool" to everyone but yourself.
I am 26 years old so know that BEFORE tring to call me a "kid" I did not act like one either. I am also not an "Ignorant American" I am an "ignorant Irishman" who thinks you have to be the dumbest people I have ever had contact with.
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Listen up raven354 err whatever what the hell is up with you calling people kids and stuff, I mean your probably a kid the way your talking on this board and you sound like one to me , and by the way for the record I was born on July 13, 1980 that makes me 24. Youre bothering everybody when we're try'n to discuss the movie so back off if your're going to be acting like a dumbass.
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Raven, would you just shut the F*uck up already? EVERYBODY is sick of your pointless chatter. Im 16 and firmly believe Im lightyears beyond your maturity level. Easily. And for questioning my computer skills, Im a frickin certified computer repair specialist! If you know how, enter DOS and type Format C: It makes your computer a lot faster and stabler. and for English skills, Im an American in 11th grade in HONORS ENGLISH. Current GPA (grade point average): 93.4. the truth hurts, doesnt it Jacka**?
By the way, before I was so rudely interrupted by someone who has a room temperature IQ, I really loved the first movie. The second was somewhat decent by itself, but a steaming pile of sh*t compaired to 1.
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sadly, I have diagnosed insomnia. I am required to go to school by law and someone with your amazing originality should be too. I mean come on? How amazing original is it to say nearly the same thing over and over and over? Its just SO creative! We should all work hard to be just like you.
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'whatever you say.......kid'? - Have you run out of insults, raven? Someone, it seems, with your intelligence probably couldn't come up with anything better.
"You know what you are? You're a beard with an idiot hanging off it" - Bernard Black
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I just have 2 questions addressed to Raven:
Who the *beep* are you, and when the hell did you stop taking your meds?
Time for the little pills to make a come back my friend. I bet you were alot nicer medicated, lets see if we can get you back to that?
By the way, repetition does not equal intellegence, come up with some new material champ!
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God bless the lot of you. I'm personally looking forward to being called "kid" by raven, it's like a rite of passage or something. I mean, I just passed a delightful half hour reading over the year plus conversation here and I can't decide which is my favorite part. That people keep trying to argue with him? Or, that he keeps coming back to this board and saying the same thing over and over again?
On the one hand, the folly, futility, the nonsense.
And on the other, his really incredible dedication. It's amazing. Did he say he was German? He's like a machine.
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lol, this entire thread has cracked me up, thanks raven363, you are a real idiot, er I mean legend.
Still i'll relay some good advice to you I once heard off someone.. "whatever kid.. go to sleep as you have school tommorow" and "truth burns hahahahahaha"
keep pushing that envelope baby!
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Of course bcquadrant, you mean it buuuuuurrrrrrnnnnnssssss, kid!
Raven, just out of curiosity, I've noticed you've been insulting people for months now. Don't you have school to attend so you can learn to stop truncating words?
"strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."
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i'm so lost...and somewhat offended...but most of all i just wonder what happened to the topic WHAT HAPPENED
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im not bein funny but this guy obviously has no life so the only way to get him to shut up is to ignore him and talk about the movie which, by the way i didnt like cos falcor looked deformed and so did the rock guy. also it didnt have the enchanting music that the 1st one had.
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Hey Raven! Why don't you just give up? Please I'm trying to read about the movie Neverending Story 2, and you just ruin it with your mindeless bladdering.
By the way, I am from Sweden, speaks swedish as my first language, and yet, I see that your original post (who started this circus) was so badly written that no one could had understand it otherwise.
As for the "Ignorant Americans"´, are ypu definetly so childish that you cannot see that people are INDIVIDUALS regadles of nationallity?
So, am I going to know thet "the truth hurts" now? Or are you going to tell me to attend at scool?
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Lol I loved the first post because thoses are the same question I was asking myself.
I remember watching this film in the cinema in 1990/1991 I was 9 and taught it was ok but as an adult I just saw it again yesterday on tv and I realised just how much inferior this film is compare to its prequel, actually I taught it was a bit creepy.
The palace was weird it was full of people who looked like they came from cirque du soleil and they kept dancing for no reason.
The fact that I knew the young actors who played bastian killed himself made watching this film a little bittersweet.
The changes were so big that I taught it was distracting.
The big bird guy was so scary , I cant beleive I didnt get nightmare from watching this film as a kid.
Well to make a long story short , I agree with the original poster , this film's a bit of a failure in my opinion.
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It seems to me that anyone can completely bash a movie when they go into it with a biased attitude. The second movie is a departure from the first, but at least there is a little continuity that eventually is lost between two and three. I personally saw the second one first, I was about six at the time, and it quickly became one of my favorite movies. When I learned there was a first movie it made it all the more exciting. Even though the story is skewed a bit and there are casting and location changes, you just need to take them with a grain of salt. Both are good movies, they are whimsical, enchanting, and a release. The Ivory Tower to my recollection looks about the same in both movies, Silver City is too cool, and Xayide is not so bad. At least Auryn and the book remain the same, I think something is lost when those change, the movies, despite feeling different are connected, one who sees the first movie second has an easier time seeing that.
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I first saw the movies when I was a kid, and I just remember loving both of them. I haven't seen either of them in years though (oh, but I did see the third and it was painful to watch..haha, we should tie Raven down and make her watch it for the rest of time) but I still list the two of them as my favorite movies.
I guess if you look at the second movie as a sequel to the first, I can understand why people were disapointed. I remember watching and thinking "Hum, Bastian sure looks diffrent. And I don't remember his dad looking like that"
Whatever, I still enjoy both films, they're an important part of my childhood. I remember begging my dad for parts 3 and 4 and 5 and so on, cause I really thought that the story never ended. I was like, 6 ok!
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haha. Oh my god, I love you raven.
Money is the ONLY reason why this film was ever made. I doubt the filmmakers cared at all about the source material and just looking to make a quick buck. Sequels are a best bet and how about one for a highly popular and well received fantasy film? You get the movie title, add the IT child actor at the time (I guess they couldn't afford Macauley Culkin), add some cheap special effects, and you have a HIT!
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Everyone, I think we should give a round of applause to raven363. He has made a very valuable point - just as Europeans shouldn't judge Americans by what Hollywood puts out sometimes, so shouldn't Americans judge us Europeans by the likes of raven - stupidity and ignorance do not have a nationality.
I agree that the sequel should not have been made and was only a milking-the-cow trick. Despite that, it doesn't do any harm as it cannot erase my memories from the original, which is so deeply burned in my head it seems i was actually in Fantasia sometime in my not too distant childhood.
Cheerz
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I always loved these movies and I was surprised to find the first neverending story on DVD at walmart the other day for $8. I agree with those who say the first one was better than the second, however, they were both good movies. The first movie in a series of movies is always the best. Sequels just never add up to the first!
oh and Raven is hilarious! He makes reading through all the posts a hoot! Thanks for the comic relief!
Sure thing kid...whatever you say, I just want it to buuuurrrrrnnnn inside you kid...
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LOL, still here....
I think I found out what George Bush does in his spare time.
Stuff like this reminds me of "Movie Poop Shoot.com" from Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back.
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You know, Raven, a wise man once said it is better to keep quiet and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.
I think that applies perfectly to you.
That wasn't a wise man kid.....that is Mark Twain's quote.
Don;t believe me? do a search, it's his.
He wasn;t wise...he was a kid like you...
I know it was Mark Twain, who I believe is pretty wise, what with his being a great novelist and all. And if you don't think that he's wise, then that's your own opinion. However, it doesn't happen to coincide with my opinion. Which is fine.
It just means you're a moron.
Nothing you say changes the fact that you are still a kid...
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Buddy, I may be a dum ommy but you are just a pathetic trolling idiotic loser with way too much time on your hands!
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Jar Jar Binks makes the *beep* Ewoks look like Shaft
Sorry ^_^ had to post after reading this. First off i just watched NESII and i personal opinion was a load of rubbish. But i've never read the book and was too young to remember when i saw the first. Anyway i have to ask, why the heck has this argument dragged on a year????? I find it so amusing that 'they' keep repeating what they said ROFL. Anyway some people are just incredibly sad. Next 'they'll' be telling us how Star Wars is only two movies ^_~
Anyway, i didn't really like NESII and thats why i'm here originally. My personal opinion was (apart from the effects being very dated now) the acting was very wooden. To the point i just wasn't drawn in by it. Plus the ending sequence of the ivory tower, kinda looked like a 80's pop video ^_^
I've only just come across this thread. I can't believe it's gone on so long.
In defense of Raven363, I don't agree with his comment about Americans being ignorant but none of you who were stung into responding by his barbed comment have done yourself any favours by attacking him on his grammar which is correct, if a little ambiguous.
It is quite clear to anyone with a correct grasp of English that the film Never Ending Story 2 is the subject of the sentence and therefore the "it" to which he refers when he says that "it was divided into two parts". "Lord of the Rings" is a referent object introduced for comparison purposes and as such its work is done by the time the pronoun "it" is introduced to the sentence.
The poster who suggested he should have put a comma after Lord of the Rings is wrong as this would make the sentence grammatically incorrect and have broken its flow.
A better construction would have been "just like Lord of the Rings it was a long story, so they divided it into 2 movies". The meaning of this sentence is clearer, although not much more grammatically correct than the original. I have only changed two words in the construction; that to so (because that could not be used after a comma and the comma allows division of the sentence into two clauses, each with its own referent meaning) and in to into. However even without this, the meaning was quite clear to me, if lacking elegance.
The problem is that people on these forums tend to type just as they would speak. Contextual meanings which are obvious in the spoken word are not so obvious in the written word.
I think those who chose to misunderstand are simply being obtuse, i.e. deliberately misconstruing the meaning in order to avail themselves of a platform for conflict.
I sympathise with the offended Americans but you won't defeat prejudice by simply shouting it down with your own.
You should all grow up a bit really.
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Ok.. ignoring the bickering..
I agree.. what did happen.. sure I hate the orignial too.. but this one.. it's unforgivable.. what the hell is with the chicken guy? why is armaganth never explained? why is the desert of manycolours just sorta.. randomly there for like.. one scene.. with no explaination.. and why on earth was Xaide made into a major villian?
Her role in the second half of the book is far more sinister.. manipulating the nieve and arrogant bastian to her own ends.. and he doesn't defeat her.. she's trampled to death by her own minions.. for reasons that noone knows. presumably she willed it (seriously.. read the book.. it says that)
some aspects of the book are there.. in the barest detail. it's a travesty... an aweful mockery of a wonderful story.. avoid this film at all costs people.. spend your cash on the book instead
Haha...well, I didn't expect this incredibly long thread when I decided to post a comment about NEII...haha. I just don't know if it is worth it anymore. I lost my thought in all the Raven nonsense :-p
I would be so impressed if I get a response from Raven...that shows true devotion and tenacity kid :-p
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though i walk through the valley of the shadow of death....
i will fear naught but thee...
and if anyones STILL checking this topic out...does anybody know where the soundtrack to this movie might be found?
try singingfish.com
"..dream a dream, and what you see will be..."
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raven,
So maybe your statement did make sense to some, it was still confusing.
but even ignoring that.
you can't compare the making of one book into two movies (never ending story I and II) and making 3 books into three movies (the fellowship of the ring, the two towers, and the return of the king)
its a completely different concept.
I know you live for the pissing off people. you love to see how angry you can make people just by saying the same things over and over again on the internet.
well, you've accomplished that much, congrats.
and as for calling people kids... I don't think that age really matters in regard to intelligence. to a certain extent it does. but just because someone is in their 20's or 30's or older doesn't necessarily make them intelligent.
well I, unlike you raven, will waste no more time on this stupid thread.
I will not be back, I will not check to see if you called me a kid or not.
I am seventeen years old, I live in the united states.
there are some who call me... Tim
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No, you're wrong. Lord of the Rings was indeed originally 1 book, but was divided into 3 books by Tolkien's PUBLISHER because it was far less costly to release 3 books systematically than to bind all that paper, buy the ink and print out 1 massive book and just HOPE it sold well enough to cover the costs.
Ironically, it was the unauthorized re-publishings of LOTR by pirates that got the books popular in the US.
haha. okay, so i came back.
raven,
I didn't know that about lotr. In order for me to have read it 10-20 years ago I would have had to have been between the ages of -3 to 7. I don't know many 7 year olds who read books that long. But you're right, I'm not a true fan of lotr. Nor am i a true fan of the movie that this thread is based upon, since i haven't read the book either.
i admit that i do believe that you know what you're talking about. and its dumb how offended everyone got by being called ignorant. As Americans we should be able to take a little bit of crap from other countries.
but seriousuly raven... thank you for actually answering back with something more than your normal response, i really do appreciate that.
I'm not really sure what happened. I went from thinking you were some stupid guy, to hating you, and then to having a lot of respect for you.
kdm.
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WHO CARES?
shareUh oh, I'm back! It's been about a year since I last spoke to Raven, and I can't believe he's still here! I find that amazing! But I have to congratulate Raven for his persistence on trying to piss everyone off, which I think he's done a pretty good job of. Not that I think it's right or anything.
You really have no life, do you, Raven? It's sad, really. I do feel sorry for you. If you ask mummy and daddy nicely they might actually decided to give their deprived, immature little child some lessons in manners and respect. That's if you haven't got a memory like a goldfish, like you have proved by repeating yourself over and over.
But that's just my thought on you.
Mitch: "Curly, I'm sorry we buried you, but you looked so dead!"
So I just got through half of the the posts of this argument.....and well, I noticed the date was 2004 - So, I scroll to the bottom and it is now 2005 and STILL GOING - Raven and all who want to say things to him like me. Just everyone, Can't we get back to the point?!?!? Talking about the movie - Oh, Raven...this is coming from a 17 year old "kid" - Ironic...
Save the internet arguments - To Call a form of people ignorant is......Ignorant. No set of people is higher than the other. Just because America has Hollywood doesn't mean Japan can't make better horror movies. It just happens to be the case that they do. We all are PEOPLE - who share the same love for an art. FILM. What everyone was mad about is change of characters/actors. It always upsets people. I always use this example. "Think if they changed the actor of Gandolf in Lord of the Rings" (How appropriate) You would be like "WHAAAAAAAAAAT?" - So yes, back to the basic form people - You don't even need to retaliate to what I've said Raven, or point out my flaws. Let's just talk about the story or use of lighting - You feel me on this? Can I get an Amen?
Rizlaaaaaaaaa!
One bag of sweets. blue raven, yellow raven, green raven, orange raven, black and white raven, funny shaped raven, curly twisty raven......what have you got?
(i too am off topic, please forgive me, but im happy right now! This post is dead funny....and i AM a neverending story fan, so we may get to that soon!)
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Yo raven, answer to the joke....clitoris allsorts.
ha haaaaa! You suck! I whup yo ass fool!
wat ya gonna do?
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Ravensucksballs.com
i'm a kid, you're my daddy....
Kids make bids on raven the brazen, how he loves to wear upon his hand a sock, for everyone knows that he loves ****....
come on, somebody ban me from the message board!
last word on ya raven my boy...get urself a shrink m'kay, cos drugs are baaad.
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as far as i know the soundtrack is out of print and VERY hard to find. i am an avid soundtrack collector and i have been searching for this particular soundtrack for a while now and still have not found a copy.
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