Otis abhorred me more than Henry did!

Yeah absolutely, I actually liked Henry compared to Otis. Which doesn't say much as I usually go for the bad guys anyway, but I disliked Otis.


"I'm sorry we're fresh out of that, all we have is ...UNTIMELY DEATH!" - Stewie Griffin.

Me too - and I'm pretty sure that was the point. Henry was a psychopath, but not without causes. His backstory is all about his childhood and he clearly possessed a negative reaction to both women and sex. When he talks to Becky and realises they both have something in common, he probably feels less inclined to kill her. Although he does in the end. Otis on the other hand - was just a horrible person.

Im working on a paper in my Criminal Minds class at college, and have chosen Henry Lee Lucus as my subject. I hope this doesnt sound "sick" of me, but I didnt find the film all that gruesome, or at least it wasnt as much as I had expected it to be given others reviews on different sites.

Dont get me wrong, it was gory enough...but I did find that, though the descriptions clearly state that this film was "based" on the life of Henry Lee Lucus, the storyline doesnt seem to be accurate in hardly any of the film.

I noticed in the main review thats on the top page for this movie, the person states that shes happy this was "just a movie"...actually its not...this movie was based on the real criminal acts of these people (Henry, Ottis and possibly even Becky)

Becky in real life was 15 or so, when she was killed, not in a hotel, but out in a field, in the middle of no where "Lucas later related in a statement to police that, after unpacking their bedrolls, he lay down and started drinking heavily. Becky stripped down to her underwear and lay beside him. After heavily drinking the result was a violent argument with both of them yelling and swearing at each other. Finally, Henry told her that he had made the decision to return to Stoneburg the following morning instead of going back to Florida like she had wanted. Her response was to hit him on the side of the head.
"That was it," Henry recalled. "I just stabbed her with my knife. I just picked it up, brought it around, and hit her right in the chest with it. She sort of set there for a little bit and then dropped on over."
Lucas said that, immediately after the attack, he was shocked that he took the life of someone he loved. His shock couldn’t have lasted long, because, according to his statement, "I took her bra and panties off and had sex with her. That’s one of those things I guess that got to be a part of my life – having sexual intercourse with the dead."
Lucas then removed a ring from her hand and cut her body into pieces and stuffed her remains into three pillow cases and left her in the field while he walked around thinking about what to do next. Even though he had killed many times, the murder of Frieda "Becky" Powell was to be the first time that Henry Lee Lucas would feel guilt and remorse for his actions."

Henry and Ottis met in a homeless shelter in Jacksonville, Florida not NYC, and Henry actually lived with their family, which included Ottis's wife, whom Ottis would bring home men from the shelter to have sex with, for him and for her.

Becky was 11 yrs old the first time they met (when Henry lived with them in Florida) and after spending time, over the years, they started a sexual relationship when Becky was only 12 years old - (no reports that I have found so far, state that Becky was married or ever had a kid) and she was Ottis's niece not his sister.

According to most accounts of their friendship, Ottis and Henry were sexually involved at some point

In the film, one is sort of lead to believe that Ottis was somewhat innocent of at least the killings until he met Henry, when in fact Ottis had his own criminal past that included, theft, kidnapping, robbery, sexual assaults, murder, cannibalism and even necrophilia.

Ottis died in September 1996 in prison from cirrhosis of the liver not by the hands of Henry Lee Lucus.

those are just a few of the inaccuracies in the film. Not Im not puting down the film, Im just putting more information out there...for those who are interested.

(( Great read about the life of Henry, Becky and Ottis )) http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/lucas/confess_1.html

ummm...you are using the word abhor in the wrong context. Abhor means "to hate". So you're saying Otis hated you more than Henry did...

The real Henry Lee Lucas had a friend named Otis Toole, who was a *real* retarded person, he was brutal, had no mercy and killed anyone, had no care who. Otis in this movie is obviously based on the real Otis Toole, who IMO was much more disturbing then Henry Lee Lucas in real life.

There's no possible way that Otis could have "abhorred you" more than Henry did, as Otis didn't know you. To abhor someone is to regard them with extreme repugnance or aversion; detest utterly; loathe; abominate. So you may have been abhorred by Otis, but unless he knew you, there's no way that he abhorred you.

You know what, looker7? That is SO true! Even though the real Henry didn't kill him, if he was anything like that moronic, dumbass idiot, I'd have killed him also. It actually started to look as though Henry had class. I realized this during the scene in the car when the (boo hoo) video camera gets busted.

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