…..when it’s only the 1985 Emmett Brown.
Now, I know, then there’d be no reason for a movie but it was just something I thought about. If Marty just went back to 1985, he’d meet up with what, I guess a second 1985 Doc Brown?
That’s the only bad thing about time-travel movies is that because it’s not real, there are no rules to abide by which just makes it more and more confusing….
Marty wants his friend back, not an alternate or paradox version of his friend. He wants the Doc Brown that he lived his adventures with. They are all Doc Brown sure, but Marty wants to help the present Doc Brown from his "final fate" of getting trapped in 1885. How can you live your life knowing your friend could have been helped and you didnt save him because the flow of time dictated Doc Brown was technically still around?
No his friend needed help and Marty could help him.
Well yeah, that makes sense. I guess I didn’t think about the Doc from 1955 that Marty met wouldn’t exactly be the same as the Doc Marty knew in 1985 from whenever it was when they became friends so if ya think about it, it really doesn’t matter that Doc needed rescuing from Biff’s ancestor, he really had no business being back in that time and another thing, that was actually kind of a shitty thing to do to his best friend telling him not to come after him. Guess this is one of those times where Doc didn’t think fourth dimensionally…
shareI reckon Doc wanted Marty to live his life free of the time machine and not endanger himself to come save him, basically accepting his fate. But Doc should have known Marty might come help him. Sending the letter ensured it, then again he had to send the letter so Marty could find the hidden time machine and return to his own time. Also It was discovering Docs tombstone that truly propelled Marty to take action. Marty could no longer think of Doc enjoying a retirement in a western town, he only saw Doc as being dead and buried and how he can still save him.
shareHuh? 1985 Doc is the one in 1885. He wouldn't be there. Why do you think they say goodbye to each other at the end of the film?
His future is in the past. Doc even says that in the graveyard for the audience to understand.
@theendisnigh,
Yeah, the doc we all know from 1985 is the one in 1885 but what do you mean when you say he wouldn’t be there? Where is there?
But I just always thought when they said goodbye at the end was because the 1985 Doc on the train Time Machine was going back to where he came from and he new he’d meet up with the new Doc originally from 1955. I guess…lol.
But I guess I don’t remember that part you’re talking about when you say Doc even says that in the graveyard for the audience to understand.….
In 1985, Doc is not there.
No, Marty and Doc are saying goodbye to each other either for good or for a long time because Doc is going exploring the past with his family. Of course, Doc could return to just after he'd left so that Marty doesn't spend much time without him but it's still the 1985 Doc going away.
Doc says it in the graveyard in 1955 after they've unearthed the Delorean just before Marty finds his grave.
Well, I had to go back and re-watch it but I see what you mean now because now that I’m actually paying attention to it, when they dug the DeLorean out of the cave, at that time, that was only just to get Marty back to 1985 and without even learning about Doc Brown’s fate in 1885, 1955 Doc even said that he always wanted to be a cowboy when he was a kid and he was actually kind of cool with living out the rest of his days in retirement in the old west in 1885.
And so after re-watching the end when Doc Brown shows up in the steam train Time Machine, when Marty asked him are you going, back to the future, and doc Brown says no, already been there, I’m assuming he’s going back to 1885?
Yeah exactly. Marty was going to follow Doc's instructions in the letter to leave him in 1885 and just get himself back home until he found (or rather Einstein found) his grave.
I've never thought Doc was going back to 1885, just exploring the past in general. He's got a flying time machine, why stay in one period?
With a little imagination and based on what we've seen previously in the films, my interpretation is that it obviously took him a good few years to build that train, might not have even been a train to begin with just a small locomotive, in which time Clara would obviously age. So when he's finished making another time machine, probably having the kids at the same time, they go to the future where Clara also has the surgery that Doc had in 2 to look more youthful etc. While in 2015 and/or beyond, he gets the time machine modified/hover converted. Why would he get it hover converted just to visit Marty and then stay in 1885? Well so he can go abroad in the past as well to explore. Robert Zemeckis and Bob Gale were adamant that in their time travel reality, you could travel through time but not space and the trilogy was consistent with that.
Doc would not be there, because Marty is traveling to the same time, or around the time when he left. Meaning Doc has already gone back in time. The only way to see him in 1985 is to go back in a time a bit, and see him before he went back. But then we also run into the same problem where any interaction he has with him could cause a paradox.
shareSo you’re essentially saying the future version of the 1955 Doc wouldn’t be in 1985 because he’s already gone back in time? If that’s what you’re saying then I guess that’s what it meant at the end of 3 when 1885 doc shows up in the train and then they say their goodbyes.
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