WERE THEY WRONG?


I talked to people about this and i suprisingly got a lotta mixed opinions. personally, i think these guys are sick. erickson was a stand up guy and all but the rest of them were sick and deranged, that girl was not a soldier and they acted like a bunch of pigs. it was wrong and disgusting. BUUUUT a lotta people say it was understandable. people went crazy in vietnam. they took out all the hate and agression they felt from the war out on her and made her suffer for it. theyre trained to hate and kill these people...whattyou think? and why is the guy from talladega nights in it and why does he look exactly the same lol

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what they did in this movie - the stinking vietnamis made more worst than that in the reailty 2 the americans





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Er... Whether it was understandable or not they were DEFINITELY wrong!

Like asking if Jeffrey Dahmer was wrong to murder all those people... After all he was crazy!

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Well, there is a difference between 'understandable' and 'wrong'.

Doing monstrous things in a high-pressure environment is understandable, but it's still very, very wrong.

Also, I'm pretty sure John C. Reilly isn't really human.

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"by gandalf
Doing monstrous things in a high-pressure environment is understandable, but it's still very, very wrong."

uh, let's not get utterly stupid. this is about rape, not a high-pressure situation of someone putting a *beep* gun to your head saying they will blow your brains out or torture you if you don't do this.

there is no effing excuse to rape ever. that is just a clear sign of the person's real moral character when in uncivil situations. in essence, their true moral colors are being revealed.

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Did you misread the part where I said 'Very very wrong'?

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Looking for an explanation for behaviour is different to looking for an excuse.

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^Couldn't agree more

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of course they were wrong. i can see where people would say it's believable and see the reasoning behind it...but for someone to question wether raping and killing an innocent woman is wrong or not...is stupid and sick.

Don't hunt what you can't kill!

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Only a miserable failed generation of slackers and moral cripples, raised on sugar, fat burgers, drugs, video games, comic books, death metal, and other such corruption of body and soul, indoctrinated into the pernicious militarism of pussies and the thievery of degenerate capitalists, could even entertain such a thought.

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You are fighting and endless BS war.. with no objective.. and no means of victory..

WWII there was a clear enemy to keep the soldiers in line and to not mess up.. it was Army vs Army.. you stayed united with your brothers in arms because they would all die for one another. There was no time for Whores, Heroin, and drinking.

In Vietnam, they were fighting an enemy that would blend into the general population and into the jungle. They can get picked off at anytime or blown up and not know where the shots came from. Much like the wars of today. There are no real Armies they are fighting, just people who hate them just for being there. In Vietnam they were all sold a bill of goods they were fighting communism, and when they get there they are attacked from so many angles because they are occupiers in their land.



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I think you should ask the Vietnamese if they had an army. I think they would say, we did.

-drl

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They were as much of an army as the Taliban..



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They were called the NVA, North Vietnamese Army and they did were uniforms. The Viet Cons were the ones that fight guerilla style. Blend in the jungle and act like rice farmers in the village.

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Yes, of course they were wrong. But if I was Eriksson, even though I wouldn't have participated in the rape, I still wouldn't have ratted them out either.

In the end, it's still us against them. And in Erickson's case, the Sergeant even saved his life prior to the incident. So IMO, Erickson owed him one.




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I think your scales are a little out of balance. Falling into a hole isn't quite the same as willfully committing an immoral and despicable crime against an innocent human being. Erickson tried to presuade Meserve not to commit the crime before any harm was done. Meserve didn't just "fall into" the crime by accident.

If I were Erickson, I would hope I would have the courage of my convictions and turn them in. Don't fool yourself about how much courage it took to stand up to the squad in that situation. They could have easily killed him, and he would have been just another MIA.

It was Meserve's duty to save Erickson's life. It was Meserve's duty to lead the squad for the purpose of accomplishing the squad's mission. Nothing gave Meserve the right to abuse his power for his own sick, selfish, and illegal desires. It was Meserve who first betrayed his squad by using his authority to intimidate his squad members into being accomplices in a rape/murder. Once Meserve did that Erickson didn't owe him a thing - not a thing. Everyone in the squad except Erickson betrayed the U.S. military and the citizens at home by doing what they did. There was no betrayal on Erickon's part. It was Erickson's duty to report the crime. He came through for us, and that is what he was there for.

They were not there as mere soldiers. They were supposed to be there as soldiers of the United States of America. They were sent to uphold our values. They failed miserably with premeditation. We owe them nothing but our contempt and the duty to prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law.

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HEAR, HEAR!

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If you have a daughter now or plan on having one later, let her come with some of my drunken biker buddies. If anything bad should happen to her, I PROMISE I won't say a thing! Just like Eriksson, I owe them for saving my azz more than once.




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you're a perfect example of *beep* up morals. owe him one?

no, us against them is the wrong type of thinking. he set out to rape and kill that girl. that is wrong, no ifs and buts. him saving erickson's life has no bearing on this act. it's like saying as long as one saves a life, they can destroy another life. as if it's a game. that's how a sociopath would think and excuse themselves.

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