Why kill Takagi?


Hans was a tactician more than a psychopath, so why did he kill Takagi?

It was clear that T didn’t know the code, and if he did then blowing his head off guarantees you’ll never hear it.

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Because Hans was smart and you are not really thinking.

Think about it. If he did not kill Takagi, what is going to happen next?

Hans would have to put him back to the group because he did not have enough men to guard him separately. Takagi would be under the impression these people did not dare to kill. So let's plan a revolt.

Takagi was only valuable to get the code, and it's quite clear there is no way to get it out of him. So killing him was the logical thing to do.

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You're confusing ‘not thinking’ for ‘not coming up with elaborate rationalisations for a potential script flaw’.

It’s not clear that ‘there’s no way to get it out of him’, it’s clear that he doesn’t know it.

Killing him only confirms to Holly that there’s no way out of this alive, which if anything is more likely to result in a revolt.

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Agreed. It looks to me like the script did that to show how cold and scary the big bad villan of the show is rather then how smart he is.

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The best reason I can think of is that he has told Takagi his secret plan, he knows they’re robbers not terrorists, so once it’s clear that Takagi doesn’t know the code he’s both useless plus he’s a potential liability if he were to somehow reveal the plan to others.

Blowing his head off is rather… extreme and over cautious, but I can sort of see the sense.

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So nobody in his company can log in computers, not even the CEO?

As for his plan, he was going to kill everyone. That part actually does not matter as much.

You are just being really dumb.

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Clearly not otherwise he would have done so, you fucking moron 🤦🏻‍♂️

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Being retarded is sort of disability, you seem to be quite sensitive about it. I guess it is not polite for me to point it out.

But here is a pointer: If you are stupid, stop talking!

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The hilarious irony here is that you’re a total fucking moron… yet completely smug.

The only thing of value you’ve provided here is being a living example of the Dunning-Kruger effect. Be very clear about that.

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I came from middle class background and I retired at 41 and joined the rank of "the 1%" 8 years ago. Even as I retired I still pay top marginal tax because of my investments.

Being in "the 1%" means I am better than 99% of people and I did it on my own, not from some inheritance that about 2/3 of the 1%ers were. So suffice to say I am quite smart.

And you?

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No dude, you’re an internet maggot jerking off to yourself in front of everyone, nothing more.

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I guess you are going to believe whatever makes you feel better about yourself, that is what losers do, it is all about feeling good, ignorance is bliss after all.

I actually learnt to appreciate it. I mean it is the losers like you, who are determined to be stupid, made me exceptional.

Anyway, I am out, cheers!

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Cheers for nothing, useless maggot.

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Lol sure thing dude.

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Mr. Takagi knew the key because the key is shown to the audience on Theo's computer monitor as "Red Castle", and visual cues are given showing "Red Castle's" derivation from "Akagi". This seems too coincidental for me.

Why did Mr. Takagi choose to lie to Hans? Mr. Takagi likely suspected that the lives of himself and his employees were forfeit the minute the terrorists got their hands on the vault, and he viewed his life as a necessary sacrifice to buy time.

This was the smartest move he could make, as the terrorists were planning on killing everyone by blowing the roof. Ultimately his sacrifice was in vain as the terrorists' plan was occupied by FBI intervention, for them to turn off the power.

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I think Mr. Takagi was only partially being noble, partially being smart.

He saw their faces, everyone saw their faces. If it were terrorism Hans might actually let them live because they would be hostages. If they were thieves then they would kill everyone for sure.

There is nothing to be gained to give them what they want, because as soon as he gave them the passwords they were going to kill him. It makes no difference.

The only way they could live or live longer is to delay them, maybe authorities would found out, some of them would become hostages and might even live.

That is probably only slightly different from what you said.

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because all things pass away in the end

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He should have brought other hostages in and be like “give me the code or I’ll blow this persons head off”

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I think threatening Takagi was sufficient, he’s a father of five and isn’t going to leave his kids fatherless for some loot. It was clear Takagi didn’t know the code but Hans blew his head off anyway.

Seems rather extreme of Hans. As mentioned the only ‘good’ reason I can think of is that Takagi knew they were robbers, not terrorists, and that made him a potential liability.

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My take...

The plan was always to kill everyone anyway. But they had to maintain the pretext of being terrorists, and they needed to keep the hostages alive until they had the bonds in hand. The first reason to keep the hostages alive til then is that it was all part of the charade. The second reason was practical... if their plan went south, they still had bargaining chips to arrange a getaway.

So there were two ways that the plan could have unfolded.

i. Takagi knows the code and gives it to them. They get into the vault sooner, get the bonds and move up the timing of the plan.

ii. Takagi doesn't know -- or won't give them -- the code. They revert to Plan B which involved using the FBI to get into the vault.

In either plan, Takagi had to be killed in a public way. Primarily, his execution was necessary to keep the hostages in line through fear. Hans could also use his execution as part of the charade for the benefit of the outside authorities... it demonstrated to them that this 'terrorist' group was legit. They could even have used a terrified hostage on the phone to describe the execution to enhance the whole 'terrorist act'.

So, in the end, they had always planned to kill Takagi in advance . They just decided to turn it into an advantage they could use by speeding up the timetable if they could extract the code from him.

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Exactly

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There's always two ways to look at these things. There's a real-world vantage and there's the movie world. This Takagi killing was a plot artifice designed to create clock-ticking tension and for the later money shot of the safe finally opening up. From a real-world perspective it was a dumb move by Hans. Why not at least try torturing or executing an employee or two to motivate Takagi giving them the combination? They'd already murdered the guy at the front entrance, so it's not like they were worried about having a nagging conscience.

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Maybe they thought “we’ll show everyone who's boss by killing the head honcho around here.” With no set leader, who’s gonna save the day? Ms. Genero?

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Because I assume he believed him, and/or it didn't matter because he had an alternatively plan anyways.

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The alternative plan seemed rather plodding and had an element of uncertainty to it. Hans even acknowledged that when he asked Theo "Now, you can break the code?"

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