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Susan Sarandon ruined this movie

posted 20 years ago by TrickGum
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I like minor league baseball so I wanted to see a good minor league baseball movie where I get to know a lot about the players. I did not get that with this movie what I got was old bag Susan Sarandon running around being annoying in almost every scene fighting over 2 guys. I didn't get to know enough about all the other players on the team. Instead the movie focuses way too much on baseball groupie whores. Maybe women want to see this but as a guy I want to see more baseball and less about the sex. Its also never explained why a 20 yr old baseball player is so interested in screwing a 40 yr old woman. I never understood why Nuke was so infatuated with Annie. Why would he lust after an average looking older woman when he could have all the hot younger sluts like the one he had in the locker room at the beginning. This all should have been minimized anyway because like I said I wanted to see more of the baseball and less sex stuff.

[–] em200 20 years ago

For me Susan made this movie. "Average looking" is your opinion but in mine she looks gorgeous in the film and she still looks as good as she did back in 1988, but to call her an old bag is just a pointless insult. She didn't write the movie, she didn't add a "groupie whore" into a minor league baseball film;she merely played the part and she did it brilliantly.

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[–] dvanpat 20 years ago

Annie Savoy is a legend among minor league players as sort of a sugar-mama. Everyone's definitely heard she's the best in bed.

[–] funkie_sparkels 20 years ago

yeah, she's got the attitude, the reputation, and the looks. Susan Sarandon made the movie, or rather Annie Savoy did. The character was meant the be the 'sugar-mama', as said before. I can't imagine anyone else in the role. And I don't think she's average looking. I think she's gorgeous, but everyone has different ideas of beauty and i respect that.

[–] topkapi56 12 years ago

You are correct. Her performance in this film is iconic. She is as sexy as hell. I still about her and those lemons in the movie "Atlantic City" as well. Whew!

[–] baran_erik 10 years ago

Look, I think she looked good in this movie, but there is no way in heII she looks as good now as she did 27 years ago.

[–] buddygrant 20 years ago

Holy crap, some of these posts are accidently hilarious. Does this mean I can't enjoy some of John Wayne's brilliant films since his personal political feelings didn't perfectly align with my own? Yeah I sure wish they had younger slut whores in this classic baseball movie, to be precise, younger slut whores with far right political leanings. Also, where in heck's name were the freaking car chases?!

Seriously, Sarandon did a great job here as did all of the fantastic cast, I could not imagine better casting being done, and what with MILF's being all the rage these days methinks close minded politics (or close mindedness about what defines beauty) might be the reason for the initial weak complaint of this post. Making the Sarandon character one of the three leads is actually what pushes this movie above most other baseball films. If you want all baseball all the time you can always go to the ballpark.

[–] bheyer 20 years ago

Hey, TrickGum, get back to me WHEN you're old enough to shave. You OBVIOUSLY know NOTHING about women. Susan Sarandon, fully dressed, at the ripe OLD age of 58, is STILL sexier than ALL of your "teen queens," put together. Susie Q MADE "Bull Durham"! I watch it, all the time, and I NEVER take my eyes off of her. She's HOT; she's SIZZLIN' she's, well, a MAJOR LEAGUE piece of ass!

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[–] always-the-hours 20 years ago

If you want to watch baseball, go to a ballpark. Don't watch a movie that clearly states that it isn't JUST about baseball. Bull Durham is an excellent movie and, incidently, stars one of the most GORGEOUS women in Hollywood, Susan Sarandon.

Don't diss a movie when you obviously went into the cinema knowing nothing about what you were going to see. If you had, you would have known that this movie was majorly about Annie Savoy, played by the oh-so-wonderful Susan Sarandon. I suggest next time you read about what you're going to see instead of coming on here and looking like an idiot.

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[–] shazini 20 years ago

God, what a Maroon!!!!

[–] pvdalen 20 years ago

Hey, when my friend and I were 19, I would've given my left arm to rail his girlfriend's mom. She was SMOKIN'. Older women are sexy as hell.

That said, I just can't get past Sarandon's wierd, sunken face that always makes her look 20 years older than she actually is.

And I completely agree that she ruins this movie. Mitigate it any way you want; it's not her acting, it's the character; it's Shelton's writing, blah, blah, blah. The point is every time she's on screen delivering her self-aggrandizing, transparent *beep* I want to chuck a brick through the screen and into her frontal lobe. If someone says that Sarandon ruined this movie, why don't we all assume that it's understood that she didn't write the movie, and admit it's OK to use her as the focal point for that character? It would save these idiotic posts by people thinking they're engaged in witty oneupmanship with nothing to offer but semantic technicalities that are obvious enough to be beneath mention.

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[–] Zim_Babwe 19 years ago

I have to agree with TrickGum. I never liked that frog-eyed old maid.

[–] Howlin Wolf 19 years ago

For me, she made the movie...

... and she was the reason I was kept watching with interest.

I'm a non-American, and I don't like baseball (silly-boys rounders!) so there's your rationale.

Susan Sarandon still floats my boat now (as a 24yr old guy, in 2005) so as you can imagine, the age-gap issue wasn't a pressing concern to me! I'd take a mature woman anytime over an attractive but bubbleheaded slut. Something to do with sophistication and 'class' - Like attracts like.

You're the first person I've wanted to talk to for more than 5mins... ever!

[–] blakngold4 19 years ago

great role for her. watching the movie now on tv, and thinking that my current perceptions of her age her in my mind as i watch this. actually looking at her, she doesn't look as old as i thought in this

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[–] dreamcast65 19 years ago

I Agree!!! I watched this movie in a Sports Film class and was so angry. The movie definitly should have concentrated more on What happens to Nook and Costner's Character. They don't even tell us how Nook does in the major leagues. It is so weird watching the sex scenes with your teacher. All he kept saying is "oh yea, this is what really happens in minor league ball" with a smirk on his face.

[–] jpjeffery 19 years ago

Why should the film "...tell us how Nook does in the major leagues..."?! It's about how he GETS there, or rather how Crash gets him there, not what he does when he gets there...

To me, Bull Durham is not a film about baseball (although I love it all the more because it used baseball as the 'vehicle').

Oh, and Susan Sarandon is gorgeous in the movie, and is still gorgeous now.

JJ (UK)

[–] mayonation11 19 years ago

The movie wasn't about The Show, it was about getting to The Show. I honestly don't get what you mean they should have concentrated on what happens to Nook and Crash, they show you happens, or at leas give strong indications. Crash ends up with Annie and Nook is in the Majors trying to win 20. Him being calm and repeating the cliques is the director showing you what happened. The movie had to end where it ended because if it hadn't what would have happened? Nook and Crash were going in totally opposite directions. Crash has retired and Nook just got called up. Maybe he does well, maybe he gets sent to AAA in after a month of being at the Show, it doesn't really matter.

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[–] walnuts34 19 years ago

i agree that the main plot of the movie isnt about baseball...its more about annie. but thats where i dont like it...ive always said she looks like skeletor with those ridiculously jagged cheek bones but thats just my opinion. and if shes some sort of baseball guru that can fix crash's swing, why the heck cant she swing a bat....horrible swing.

if this movie was more about baseball and less about skeletor, it would easily be in my top 10 favorite movies of all time, instead its just a little above average

[–] Jenfranbax 19 years ago

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This is who her son was named after.
It is no secret that SS politics are very leftist. I do not judge her performances by her politics, but it makes her unlikable to me. It is hard to get past it. I guess that is the point of having publicists. This is why film execs worry, because image can affect the bottom line.
Anyway, I think she has always been tough to look at on the big screen, anyone seen "The Banger Sisters?" "The witches of Eastwick?" bad frizzy wigs, bad costumes(and lack of a good supportive bra,) bad makeup, bad lighting for her big dark undereye circles, and bad acting.
And please, I am not here to inflame anger on the boards, it's just my opinion folks.
Am I still entitled to it?
This is rhetorical.

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[–] tgrube1 19 years ago

Sure you're entitled to your opinion, but if you look at both of your posts here neither one of them had anything to do with the movie.

Isn't this a movie website?
This is rhetorical.

Please post your political views in an appropriate place- maybe the forums at theconsevativevoice.com?

In my opinion, Susan Sarandon looked beautiful in this movie, and the chemistry beteen Annie & Crash was what made it such a great movie.