I had always suspected that while Keith was in Hardy's house trying to prove his manhood, Watts made the emergency call to Duncan for back up.
Do you think she called him to the rescue?
But afetrwards all she said was "nice move, I saw it from out here".
I never thought of it like that. It really could work either way, if you think about it. Keith had already gotten in with Duncan, so he may have reserved his services for Hardy, in addition to the museum.
But Watts had to know Duncan. Just seems like the kinda guy she would know (if not associate with). And she already knew about Hardy's plan if Keith went to the party. And Watts was very much looking out for Keith.
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Watts and Duncan were not exactly close. Remember, at the beginning of the movie he was harrassing her as she walked into school. There were no scenes indicating they made up, as there were between Keith and Duncan.
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Caught wind?
Knowing Duncan, he most-likely BROKE the wind in the first place!
I don't think that was intended for the writer to show that it was Watts that called Dunkin, but I like to think of it that way anyway. It would just work nicer that way. Watts saves the day:)
shareDuncan knows all... It's not possible to be the rebel he is and not be in the IN on everything happening around town... Everyone knew that keith would be in trouble at the party... Duncan to the rescue...
shareI kind of wondered if Duncan liked Watts, as he was cruel to her at the beginning, and some guys can be cruel when they really like someone.Just a thought.Also, maybe he had asked her out before, and she had turned him down , so he made those comments about her ?.Plus, he called her sweetheart.
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Sedagive?!!!
"Duncan knows all... It's not possible to be the rebel he is and not be in the IN on everything happening around town... Everyone knew that keith would be in trouble at the party... Duncan to the rescue..."
That's the way I saw it kind of. I just kind of figured he knew that Keith was probably going to get in over his head and just decided to keep an eye out for him. I swear to God, that was my favorite freaking part of the movie. Keith standing up for himself despite the fact he knew he was going to get a beat down, Amanda willing to give up her newfound and much valued dignity to prevent that from happening, and Duncan swooping in with his crew to save the day. All that combined with the music just made that my favorite freakin' scene. Man, now that's friendship.
It's the classic Duncan answer to Hardy's lame attempt at getting out of the situation that is the best scene in this movie IMO! The way he cuts Hardy offf and tells it like it is, and what is about to happen, and al that follows is what makes this movie a timeless classic to me. You can youtube it, I did and found the party scene at hardys, and Duncans great lines, made me ROTFLMFAO as always!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
shareWhen she said "nice move, I saw it from out here" she was talking about Amanda slapping Hardy.
shareKeith had already roped in Duncan and his friends to help with the date - what makes you think he wouldn't also have asked him to stand by as backup at the party?
Besides, Watts says to Keith "Nice move, I saw it from here". I always took this to mean that she watched them go in, just as a bystander.
You are all wrong. The answer is no one called Duncan. In the original script, Duncan and his boys were never involved in this scene. Originally, after Hardy tells his pals to take Keith outside, his pals just stand there and do nothing. Hardy backs down and shows everyone what kind of a person he really is. The party guests exit. Only Keith, Amanda and Hardy are left. Keith tells Hardy he's through and Amanda slaps him. Amanda and Keith walk out the front door. My guess is that Duncan and his boys were added at the last minute by the director, or someone, for the purpose of giving this scene a little more drama and humor. So, the question of who actually called Duncan become moot, doesn't it?
shareThat's interesting - but does that mean that Watts's line about "nice move" was added later as well?
I also do not agree that a last-minute addition to a film should be regarded as somehow "not part of the story". Unless you are a disgruntled screenwriter, of course :)
"I also do not agree that a last-minute addition to a film should be regarded as somehow "not part of the story". Unless you are a disgruntled screenwriter, of course :)"
Exactly... if it's in the movie, it's part of the story.
Also, it had to end that way, it was 1987.
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The "nice move" comment was in the original script. So, it had nothing to do with Duncan.
shareI may have missed something but how did he become friends with Duncan. Was it throught that time in detention? or did it not show it?
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In the film, the Keith-Duncan friendship is rather vague. But in the original script there is a scene that never made it to film that helps to explain it. In this scene Duncan shows up at the garage where Keith is working and says: "I figured, spending two weeks next to you in morning jail qualifies us as friends, and I told you I'd help you. I want to help you. If you don't want to nail Jenns, tell me what I can do for you".
shareThanks mate I thought something was missing.
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Did some of you miss seeing the entire movie or something?
Duncan did indeed become friends with Keith during detention because they were both "artists" and Duncan really respected Keith's artistic capability, something he most likely couldn't express to his tough guy friends....I use that word in quotations because of Duncan's style of art of course...LOL!
"Nice move, I saw it from here" was OBVIOUSLY in relation to Watts seeing her slap Hardy in the face. Watts loved Keith and didn't want to respect her, but begrudgingly had to respect her for sticking up for herself and Keith when Watts clearly thought she was a spineless and spoiled rich girl.
As for Duncan, I think since he was obviously part of Keith's overall planned date with his dreamgirl, Keith told him EVERY aspect of his date plan and Duncan figured out what would happen at Hardy's house and made sure to keep a lookout there for his friend Keith. As said before, Duncan stole the movie in his limited role, absolutely hilarious and his scene at Hardy's house makes the movie for me personally, some of the best lines ever...I also love how he rests his head on her shoulder like a gentle pet when Keith asks him to relax so he can tell Hardy what a D-bag he is!!!!
I think one point everyone is missing is, how could she possibly have "called" Duncan in. It was 1987, there were no cell phones back then and by all accounts Watts didn't go anywhere. Hence, no call was made to Duncan.
I'm curious, though, whether Duncan putting his head on Amanda's shoulder after confronting Hardy was in the script or not. It was a great scene and Lea Thompson looked like she didn't know it was coming.
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I always thought that one of the reasons Keith was so confident before and during the party was because he planned for Duncan to be there for him.
We see Duncan at the museum so why wouldn't he then go to the party. Plus don't the two of them talk about the party and Hardy's intentions during detention? We see the 2 characters become friends while also giving us the impression that that's when Keith asked for his help (maybe). Of course whats the point in the audience seeing him ask - no surprise for the ending.
I guess this view does take away from Keith's strength and dignity at expecting and willing to take a beating. To have him repeat how he HAS to face Hardy knowing he was going to have backup) definitely makes his character a bit weaker to everyone (including us) which I dont think I like as much.
I just always assumed he asked for Duncan's help - I could be very wrong since reading hte post about the original script - but could it be other things were changed to make this point more possible?
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I always thought that one of the reasons Keith was so confident before and during the party was because he planned for Duncan to be there for him.
We see Duncan at the museum so why wouldn't he then go to the party. Plus don't the two of them talk about the party and Hardy's intentions during detention? We see the 2 characters become friends while also giving us the impression that that's when Keith asked for his help (maybe). Of course whats the point in the audience seeing him ask - no surprise for the ending.
I guess this view does take away from Keith's strength and dignity at expecting and willing to take a beating. To have him repeat how he HAS to face Hardy knowing he was going to have backup) definitely makes his character a bit weaker to everyone (including us) which I dont think I like as much.
I just always assumed he asked for Duncan's help - I could be very wrong since reading hte post about the original script - but could it be other things were changed to make this point more possible?
One thing is for sure, Keith did not ask Duncan to show up. When Keith is leaving and thanks Duncan he is clearly still a bit surprised and caught off guard about Duncan being there. And, Keith wanted to show up and take on Hardy himself. That was the whole point. Having Duncan in reserve would really not have accomplished that.
I feel Duncan was just trailing around the whole night knowing it was going to end up at Hardy's house. He let Keith do his thing, but when they ganged up on Keith, Duncan stepped in.
Just my opinion.
Just replying in sequence here. I think as Duncan said earlier in the film something about him not liking Jenns, he would have showed up anyhow to ensure no trouble. I thought he was hilarious!
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