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This Would Never Happen in Real Life


Okay so I'm a teenage girl and can I just say (and I'm positive all the guys will agree with me) the absolute stupidity and unrealistic plot of what this film is. And I feel horribly for saying that because I'm a huge John Hughes teen '80s film fan but it's the truth.

This movie was stupid and it sucked.

I know for a fact a guy will not (never, really) kiss a girl he just considers his best friend or even just a friend because it's plain awkward and weird especially when the girl asks the guy to kiss her for just practice like what Watts did to Keith.

Keith spent all that money and time worshiping this one girl, Amanda, he claimed to be so madly in love with but by the end of the film just by one little flashback of just a kiss, nothing else and all of sudden he "falls in love" with his best friend. No, that never happens. He never stated feelings for Watts and she was never present about her feelings, and when a girl isn't present about her feelings to a guy she's crushing on or if that said guy already knows but is not interested in her he is not going to suddenly fall head over heels in love with the girl once he realizes she was in love with him the whole time.

Geez, this plot was worse than a Disney prince/princess movie when it comes to love.

And the other thing that entirely pissed me off was Keith spent all his college money, HIS COLLEGE MONEY, on earrings for a girl. Now like I said I'm a girl but if I was in love with a guy I barely knew I wouldn't spend my college money on him for some vain, useless gift. Guy or Girl, no smart sane person would, and that whole spiel Keith gave to his father about spending all his college money and telling his dad he knows what he was doing and his dad just walks out and how Keith doesn't want to go to college. That was such BS. It was. No parent would take that and just go along with what their kid said. Unless you are a freaking talented rock star you have to go to college in order to make a living for yourself. Keith's dad should have kicked his ass for doing such a stupid thing.

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I guess you like Spiritualized, NicodemusAtrophyyyyyyyy...

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Ok, since you're a teenage girl I'll assume that is why you missed the whole point.
Keith was making a statement by buying the earrings. It wasn't about the earrings themselves, it was about what they meant: that Keith was just as good as a 'rich' boy that COULD afford to buy those type of things for her. (Keith was insecure seeing himself as a lower class social misfit.)
He was an artist, so he didn't plan to go to college. He was going to be happy being a starving artist rather than a well-to-do college graduate doing something that didn't make him happy.

The Flashback to the kiss wasn't what made Keith realize he 'loved' Watts. That was just another sub-concious knock at the door. It was after Amanda shattered his illusions when she criticized his painting of her: "This isn't me. This is just some image you've made of me." (paraphrase) She isn't just talking about the painting. She's REALLY refering to his 'idea' of her. He doesn't love HER. He loves what she represents. The 'ideal' of the beautiful girl. The 'higher' class of people. He's really just using her. Keith thinks he is rebelling against that 'ideal', but actually buying into it. He bemoans that 'type of people' while trying to be it's equal. Amanda makes him realize he needs to be happier with himself for who he is, not by association to someone else (her). Be true to how he feels. THAT is when he realizes that Watts is what makes him happy and happy to be who he is, not what he could/should be.
Keith was fighting his own attraction to Watts because of his 'goal' of Amanda. When he lets go of his 'manufactured' 'love' for Amanda and allows himself to see without pre-concieved thought, the truth is clear. It's Watts that he's always really felt close to.

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"He only has one friend ,she has her brothers and her friends but for him it is only her"
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What about Keith's other sister? Not Laura, the other one (was her name Cindy?) - it was probably too subtle in the film but from what little we saw of her I got the impression that she really admired and looked up to her brother, and shared Keith's dislike of Laura


Perfection is boring - flaunt the imperfection!

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Amen sister friend.
Or brother, lol

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Well, in real life men who knows that a woman is interrested in them but don't do anything about it is stupid, but if that man is not interrested in that woman and don't tell them is wrong. Friends don't kiss eachother and say oh we're just friends is not what friends do I mean you miles well go out if you guys are going to do all of that then. I have planty of guys friends but I wouldn't kiss them unless one them was my husband

As for Keith spending his collage money on some earrings for Amanda, well, if you really like that person and want to give that person something nice and couldn't find the money right away I would get a job or maybe asked my father or mother for some money though.

If Keith really knew that Watts likes him as more then just a friend then he wouldn't have dated Amanda he would of went out with Watts.

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Huh? I don't even get a lot of what you just said. lol
You're completely generalizing men and women. People can get scared. I know someone who has feelings for me and I return them but I'm afraid and that's why I don't "do anything about it," I bet the same goes for a lot of men.
Tons of friends kiss headteacher and don't like each-other. There's reasons like "friends with benefits, practice, and just the satisfaction of being close to someone physically."
He did have a job....that's where he got the cash.
I think Deep down he knew Watts liked him, but he still had this goal to get what he thought was the "ultimate girl."

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First, the money was Keith's to do with as he pleased. He earned it, after all. And if you had really payed attention to the movie, you would have known that Keith never planned on going to college anyway. That was his father's dream for him, not his dream. Keith wants to be an artist. He doesn't need college to be a struggling artist. He's planning on doing what makes him happy (art) even if it will never make him alot of money.

And Keith didn't suddenly realize he loved Watts. I think he always knew but it scared him (and it scared Watts too). They were each other's only real friends and I think they were scared that exploring a relationship might ruin their friendship so they tried to ignore their feelings for each other. And they were also scared that the other wouldn't feel the same way. Also, Keith was never in love with Amanda. He didn't even know her. He was 'in love' with an ideal that Amanda didn't measure up to anyway. Keith wanted to show he was as good as the rich guys like Hardy and part of that was getting the 'it' girl who was Amanda. Amanda made him realize at the end that he would always be Keith no matter who he was with. If he wasn't happy with himself, he wouldn't be happy with anyone else either. She made him realize he needed to accept himself for who he was. So when he accepted who he was, he realized that Watts accepted and liked him for who he was just as he liked and accepted Watts for who she was. They didn't want each other to change because they liked each other for who they were. He got over his fear of his feelings for Watts (partly I think because Amanda kinda clued him into Watts returning the feelings) and chased Watts down...and that's that.

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You'd be surprised with what just friends will do with/for each other even if they already have somebody it's very hard to understand I don't ether and I'm 27. To be fair I do like my female friend more then just a friend but she still does things for me that are somewhat boyfriend and girlfriend. There is also the whole friends with benefits things that do exist for some people.

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As someone who fell in love with and married her best friend, I have to say even though this movie presents it in a cheesy way that yes it could happen in real life. At one point while my husband and I were still just friends I helped him ring shop for another girl, boy that was torture, but in the end he realized she was not the right girl and I got the ring and the guy :)

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i had practice sex with a friend of mine that was a chick..she was hot and wanted someone to take her virginity so i took her to my house and we did it. i made her a woman. she still comes by to practice pretty often,.

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Only "she" was really a boy, right?

Jog on

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Thank you. Finally, someone who really understood what a pile of *beep* this movie was. I was just about to make a similar post after all the posts fawning over this movie when I noticed yours.

I agree wholeheartedly with all your points and all the people trying to justify his stupid actions and the nonsensical plot are just crazy.


The more Hughes movies I watch the more I realize he had more misses than hits. After PT&A and Ferris Bueller I became a huge fan of Hughes, but then most of the movies after that just plain sucked including his highly praised Breakfast Club.

Anyway, I know most people won't agree with me, but just my 2 cents.



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