I've held off on watching this for a while seeing as it's a sequel to The Hustler, but I havn't been able to find a copy of The Hustler anywhere. So my question is how important is it to have seen The Hustler first?
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You should watch The Hustler. It's not so important that it's going to completely ruin either movie for you, but you should watch The Hustler first I think.
Not at all.
I saw this movie first many years ago. Saw the Hustler a few years after that. It did not affect my enjoyment of The Color of Money at all.
Enjoy! It's a good movie.
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No. It gives more insight into Eddie's character but there's no characters other than Eddie that carry over and there's no plot connection other than one line of dialogue.
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if you watch this first, then the Hustler, you'll probably want to watch Color of Money again. BTW Look out for a terrific performance by the great George C.Scott in the earlier movie.
shareNo. It gives more insight into Eddie's character but there's no characters other than Eddie that carry over and there's no plot connection other than one line of dialogue.
Sorry but you're wrong on that.
The Hustler was in 1961 while Bill Cobb (Orvis) was only on TV in 1972 and appeared in The Taking Of Pelham One Two Three in 1974.
If you watch The Color of Money again when Orvis speaks to Eddie he mentiones a different pool hall than was featured in The Hustler.
If you also notice that the guy who was 'the Limping Attendant at Ames Billiards' was Blue Washington (and he was limping with one side of hos body lower than the other side).
The Hustler was in 1961 while Bill Cobb (Orvis) was only on TV in 1972 and appeared in The Taking Of Pelham One Two Three in 1974.
If you watch The Color of Money again when Orvis speaks to Eddie he mentiones a different pool hall than was featured in The Hustler.
If you also notice that the guy who was 'the Limping Attendant at Ames Billiards' was Blue Washington (and he was limping with one side of hos body lower than the other side).
You are correct, it isn't the same actor but it is the same character that was in The Hustler
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Yes, you should watch The Hustler first before The Color of Money. Is it important? Yes.
The whole point of making The Color of Money to begin with is to see what's become of "Fast" Eddie Felson. It's kind of pointless to see Money without seeing The Hustler first because by doing so you see things from an important perspective.
The Color of Money is not about Vince. It's all about Eddie, and how he comes back to playing pool, but more importantly, what gets him to come back. For Eddie, it wasn't really about hustling. Hustling was work to Eddie that enabled him to play pool.
Because why does Eddie jump back into playing pool? If you don't see The Hustler, it's a little bizarre. Sure you can extrapolate a bunch of reasons, but up until Vince nearly blows a gig with that awesome pool player, where Carmen threatens to withhold sex from him if he wins one more game, Eddie is content to be the old teacher. Why bother taking up pool again when running booze makes a good living?
The Hustler answers why.
There's a scene in the Hustler where he explains why to Sarah, about how much he loves pool. You don't get a scene like that in The Color of Money. In Money, Eddie is a Manager, who becomes a Pool player again, and this is more poignant when you see where he was before.
WyldeGoose sums it up. I grew up watching The Color of Money never having heard of The Hustler. The Color of Money was a good movie by itself, but when I became interested in playing pool and watching pool movies, I watched The Hustler and it made The Color of Money a much much better film. You understand Fast Eddie's character so much more and why he quit playing pool and got into running booze. He talks about how someone retired him and you won't understand that unless you watch The Hustler. He says 9-Ball is for bangers because in The Hustler he shot straight pool.
It's probably essential, if you wanna see how Eddie Felson was in his younger years, before he retired and got to wherever he currently is in his older age.
I, didn't see "The Hustler" first, I just went ahead with this one; also being a huge Scorsese fan, I had to see it regardless. But Paul Newman's performance was so good, he gave the impression that after all these years, he did in fact had been longing to go back to doing what he loved best: being a pool hustler/player.
But do you REALLY have to see the first one before this? Well, maybe. I say that because Eddie is the only character from the original that matters. In this one, the story is still about him, not Vincent. Character wise it is important to see The Hustler first.
If you're just in the mood to see a very good underrated film and not care much about the main character, then go ahead and watch this one. It's obviously a completely different film overall.
It is not essential but at least,you get to appreciate Fast Eddie Nelson's character in it and get more into the depth of his character.
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This is the scene wherein Eddie explains to Sarah on why he loves to play pool so much.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsKngbcGyeo
After watching this scene,it explains why Fast Eddie Felson made an unlikely comeback at playing pool.It explains how much it means to him and how it has become a part of his life.It wasn't primarily because of Vincent Lauria but because of Fast Eddie's feelings about pool.
It's much more satisfying if you're into character development and all that. Besides The Hustler is a great movie and shouldn't be missed.
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