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This wasn't always considered a classic.


It did fairly well for the budget and had a cult following, but I don't think this was considered a bonafide horror classic until about a decade later.

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It was pretty popular, given that they released another Nightmare film the following year and didn't really stop releasing them up until the mid-90s. But nothing really becomes a classic right away, does it? I'm sure people who watched the first Indiana Jones movie didn't think they'd still be making them today when they first viewed the film, however much they loved it.

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Funny, I was surprised a few years ago when I found out Raiders of the Lost Ark was nominated for best picture at the Oscars when it came out. I love that movie and have since I was a kid but to be fair it isn't really the typical movie that gets nominated for best picture at the Oscars. So it was loved even by the academy at the time.

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Yeah but thats because the Oscars are wrong, not Indy!

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Frankly I don't disagree with their nominating that. My least favorite Academy Award decisions are Sean Connery winning for the Untouchables, Jack Palance winning for City Slickers, Tommy Lee Jones winning for the Fugitive, Kim Basinger winning for L.A Confidential, and the fact that Morgan Freeman didn't win an Oscar until Million Dollar Baby.

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I dont really follow them,
but i was pleased to hear Mad Max 4 picked up a few in the technical fields.

" Jack Palance winning for City Slickers"
That does sound odd, did he have any already?
maybe it was a "lets throw him one before he dies" kinda deal
a below the counter lifetime acheive gong

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No he didn't have one. Only nominated once in the 50s for a movie called Shane. But it is as you say. They should be about what the best actor is and not making up for past snubs.

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...a movie called Shane.


The way you wrote that makes me feel weird. As if "Shane" is some obscure, totally forgotten movie instead of one of the classic Westerns of all time.

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Well I have never been into westerns and neither were my parents so...

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That is surprising, not only because of the type of movie it is, but also given how many influential films came out in '81. To be fair, it did make a lot of money, but still it's not really a typical Oscar winner.

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Says who?

It was very popular at the time. The first sequel came out about ten months after the original.

Considering that this movie came out in 1984, and Wes Craven's New Nightmare came out in 1994, which was the 7th film in the franchise, I'd say it was obviously well known and well loved by the time a decade had passed.

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The sequel came out exactly a year later in November.

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I was a kid when this came out. It was hugely popular. They had a sequel come out the very next year. Obviously a brand new movie isn't immediately considered a classic, but this was a hit from the start, and never lost traction.

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Even Heather Langenkamp said this didn't become a truly beloved horror classic until a decade later. Maybe it already was considered one of the greats by most horror fans, but the media didn't start to recognize it until about 1994?

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It had the added distinction of launching Johnny Depp's career.

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I understand both sides.

On one hand the film was commercially successful and did immediately launch a franchise.

On the other, it was no where near as big a hit as some other slasher films and the franchise commercially peaked in the middle, it ramped up whilst most other franchises go downhill. So it definitely saw an uptick in the way of interest over the years.

Ranking of the ANOES franchise based on adjusted domestic gross;

Freddy vs Jason (2003) - $129.8 million
ANOES 4: The Dream Master (1988) - $120.65 million
ANOES 3: Dream Warriors (1987) - $113.99 million
A Nightmare on Elm Street (2010) - $83.63 million
ANOES 2: Freddy's Revenge (1985) - $80.58 million
Freddy's Dead: The Final Nightmare (1991) - $74.02 million
A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984) - $70.96 million
ANOES 5: The Dream Child (1989) - $51.69 million
Wes Craven's New Nightmare (1994) - $35.29 million

As you can see it got outgrossed domestically by SIX other entries in the franchise.

The original films in Halloween, Scream, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Child's Play and Friday the 13th are the highest grossing entries of their franchises. ANOES is one of the rare cases where the sequels did better financially.

The commercial succes of the first doesn't line up with it's current reputation. It's one of the biggest and most popular horror franchises of all time with the original being regularly considered a top-25 horror film of all time.

Halloween (1978) - $208 million
Scream (1996) - $189.79 million
The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974) - $180.97 million
Friday the 13th (1980) - $139.5 million
I Know What You Did Last Summer (1997) - $130.7 million
Child's Play (1988) - $81.23 million
A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984) - $70.96 million
Candyman (1992) - $53.14 million
Prom Night (1980) - $51.89 million

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After compiling the domestic adjusted gross for numerous horror franchises;

Franchise - highest grossing entry
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The Texas Chain Saw Massacre - The original
Halloween - The original
Friday the 13th - The original
A Nightmare on Elm Street - Freddy vs Jason (the original is only the seventh highest grossing in the franchise)
Child's Play - The original
Scream - The original
Final Destination - The Final Destination (the original is the second highest grossing but is only approx 50 thousand dollars behind TFD. It's pretty much a tie for first place.)
Saw - Saw II (the original is the fourth highest grossing with Saw III & IV also beating it)
Paranormal Activity - The original
Insidious - Insidious: Chapter II (the original is the third highest grossing, Insidious: The Last Key also earned more than it, though not by much - only $8 million.)
The Conjuring - The original

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Oh let me guess after the original it didn't have any legitimatecy until New Nightmare came out right? I hate all these Wes fans up in my Freddy Franchise trying to be the ultimate authority of internet opinion.

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I saw it when it came out in 1984- We all treated it as an amazing film.

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Well, there is one thing that needs to be present in order for something to be considered a classic... TIME.

This should pretty much go without saying. 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

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