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Which is the better 'V' - the 'original miniseries' or 'The Final Battle


I may be the only one who thinks this, but being a fan of "V" for 20 years, having collected ALL the VHS and DVD's, I still think "The Final Battle" is better than the 2 part original miniseries. i hav the upmost respect for kenny johnson, without whom there would be no "V". however i always enjoy watching the 3 parts of the final battle the most, i find them more exciting, more entertaining. sure, they may not be as "deep" or meaningful as the original, but to me, its 6 hours of quality acting, storylines and i never tire of watching it..... does ANYBODY agree with me on this, as most people seem to slate "the final battle" in favour of the original....
your thoughts please......

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I think the original is a little better because it introduces the situation and then peels back the layers to show what is really happening in regards to the Visitors' true plans. Of course, for Final Battle, you can't start from the beginning. There were good moments in FB as well, especially when Robin gives birth to those twins.

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The original by a LANDSLIDE.

There is no comparison.

The original V: Mini-Series could have legitimately been released as a major motion picture in theaters. The one thing that mad this impossible was, obviously, the length and secondly the lack of any big-name stars. The script was brilliantly-written and, though the heavy-handed allusions to Nazi Germany (the hated of scientists/intellectuals, concentration camps, genocide, etc.) got to be a bit much at times but it was a unique take on the familiar aliens-takeover-Earth story and added a real-life context to itself.

The acting was mostly top-notch. The script was awesome and developed every single character perfectly. From Juliet going from mousy/push-over doctor to accepting her place as leader of The Resistance, to Donovan going from womanizing loner to team-player and hero, Elias going from careless street-hood to having a purpose in life and helping others, hell - even a bit, cameo part like that of Sancho (who was in two, short scenes before the ending) - ends up being a key player in saving the day. The ending was equally bleak AND inspiring at the same time instead of the generic "happy ending." It was a very smart, entertaining and thoughtful movie sci-fi movie.

The one bitch I've ever heard anybody say about it was the special effects look bad. But you have to keep in mind - this was a TV movie made in 1982. It had a considerably less of a budget than a feature film and the effects still look pretty damn good, in my opinion. I see SyFy movies and other original TV movies released a few months ago (present) that have worse CGI.

V: The Final Battle was just a generic, TV sci-fi/action movie to be honest. I can see where the one poster comes from when he says Ham Tyler showing up changed the tone of the story. He was too much of a generic, badass, never-misses-a-shot action tough guy. The beauty of the original was its literally a story of ordinary, believable people in WAY, WAY over their heads who are thrown into a situation where they have to band together beyond all their differences/prejudices to save the world. It was a great story.

In V: TFB, it got too ridiculous. The ending was stupid. And - like somebody else said - the Shocktroops were too easily defeated and were no longer threatening. Instead of the "how the hell can the beat these guys?" feeling you got in the original, you were wondering "why haven't they beat these push-overs?" feeling of this.

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The original series in every way you can think of.

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The original has more intellectual depth.

TFB is more action-packed, but also suffers from excessive soap opera and lame cop-outs to get around plot problems with.

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Just finished watching the two miniseries for the first time in years and I have to agree, the original was better for all the reasons already stated. It was more personal than The Final Battle. I like how that old Holocaust survivor kind of knew what was going on before everyone else.

Where was the government/military during The Final Battle? The Star Child was just a terrible idea. The alien lizard puppets used during the conversion parts & the twin birth were also terribly lame. I can't imagine them looking scary even back in the 80s.

In the original miniseries, only a handful of people knew the truth about The Visitors but by the end of The Final Battle, they show the whole world celebrating the defeat of The Visitors. When did The Visitors' real plans become public knowledge?

The Resistance managed to change their original plan of attacking the airbases to releasing THOUSANDS of balloons all over the world waaaay too quickly. It seemed like it was only a few days that went by. Not to mention, how were they able to produce that much poison & distribute it to the Resistance in other countries so quickly?

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Its funny but I always thought that V got worse as it went along. There may not be action in it but the original mini-series had better writing, looked better, and the acting was better. The Final Battle was no washout and did have some great moments it just was not as well done as the original mini-series. The series was where the ball was dropped, became campy, and the less said about it the better.

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I totally agree with you glendales25 on all counts here . I also like both miniseries movies a lot but I'm favor of " V THE FINAL BATTLE " especially because that one is not shown enough in reruns on TV like the first " V " has been . As an example currently on the ENCORE Channel " V THE FINAL BATTLE " is only being shown Sunday July 14th at 10AM ( NO showings on the weekdays like the original " V " has been ? ) . It doesn't make any sense . Thanks glendales25 for your subject post .

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I was a teenager when they originally came out. I actually saw TFB first and then the original after. Back then, I preferred TFB because of the action sequences. Rewatching as an adult, I prefer the original (though I still think TFB is a lot of fun).

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Ahem. I apologize for the long post :) But here goes. This has always been one of my favorite miniseries of all time.

I loved V when it first aired and The Final Battle a year later. For the longest time I had taped both series together on one tape, all squeezed into one 8-hour videotape and watched it as one complete mini-series. So I have to say I love both of them. The original had overtones of fascism, Nazi Germany and the downfall of that society... Abraham saw it and tried to warn his family but nobody listened to him.

The whole idea of people being misled had a very familiar ring to it... it happens all the time in movies, but this was different, the visitors were our friends! They weren't hiding anything! Could be trusted :)

yeah right. dry that one out you could fertilize all the lawns of the world 3 times over. :D

I loved both series, and the only thing I did NOT like was the ending. They must have been running out of steam to come up with that cop-out. I mean really... I kind of had a feeling when I first saw it back in 84 that this star child would have something to do with the ending but I didn't expect what happened.

Other that that, the whole thing is a masterpiece, score included.

Ok so it wasn't that long of a post. I'm tired tonight :D

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I love both equally, one is the beginning and one is the end. When I watch them I don't get the feeling of liking one more then the other.

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Cool.

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