Which is the better 'V' - the 'original miniseries' or 'The Final Battle

Ham was an interesting character. On the one hand, he seemed to be a bully and did not like the Visitors at all, not even Martin, but you did see a softer side to him when he is talking to Ruby about Romeo and Juliet. It showed he had a cultured side as well.

Aww, I liked Michael Ironside's character! Ham Tyler had some of the best lines in the whole 'V' saga!

They were both done very differently, and I think there was logic to this, in the original the visitors had just arrived, they were not going to push things. They were getting established, only in the middle to end of the original did visitor troops start showing up more, like they were slowly sneaking their troops into cities and so on and slowly building up power. Whythe family element was needed more in this part than later to show peoples reactions to show how it changes people and the pwoer of the two sides building up ie the resistance and the visitors that was really the main points of the original, arrival, power building, and reaction.

In the final battle things were taken up a notch war wise, the visitors intorduced guard units i.e the gold helmeted lot to protect their faculties as they no longer cared and were too powerful to worry what people thought. the troops ie. black helmets were sent to attack more so the two units are attack and defence, we didnt see the golds originally as they had not yet been deployed. As for the family elements most were too scared by this point to do anything or the visitors grip on the world was too tight, so the family elements were dropped in place of action because we all knew how the families had reacted already so it would seem like padding and would probably be covering old ground. Also the series ahd time constraints so they didnt have time to do such things which sadly led to the ending being rather rushed.

Pros and cons the original did ahve better acting as I feel KJ pushed the actors more than those who took over, the family elements were done well and did open it all up to other viewers who would normally see sci fi as poop,the arrival and slow build up was done excellently and the hint at other aliens at the end was interesting. also it had more creepy moments than the final battle, with the visitors taking everyone from a town and the alien revelations and so on. but I will say the Donnovan charecter was a bit weaker he was more a loner than later on.

Pros and cons on TFB V became rambo sadly the Visitor troops feared in the original became cannon fodder they became totally useless shots and utterly incompitent at hand to hand fighting even Steven? who was ment to be ehad of security didn't put up a good fight him and ham should ahve had a big one on one fight and the battles should have been more two sided not jsut the occasional one resistence fighter for 100 plus visitor troops that was why the visitors lost their menace people could beat them too easily. the battles though were done better and the first one we see when the resistance looses is done well but it seems that is the last time the visitors are powerful really. The ending is too easy I know it had to end but red dust seemed like the easy fix solution and the stat child thing was probably hinting at she was ment to be the future massiah of man and errm lizard.

anyway sorry if I have over posted...

The only thing I didnt like about the Final Battle was the child. The Second Generation will pick up 20 years after the Original Mini Series and disregard the events of Final Battle and the Series.

"Pros and cons on TFB V became rambo sadly the Visitor troops feared in the original became cannon fodder they became totally useless shots and utterly incompitent at hand to hand fighting even Steven? who was ment to be ehad of security didn't put up a good fight him and ham should ahve had a big one on one fight and the battles should have been more two sided not jsut the occasional one resistence fighter for 100 plus visitor troops that was why the visitors lost their menace people could beat them too easily."


I definately agree with this. In the first mini series, the Visitor soldiers were professional marksmen. Just watch the assault on the armary or Mike Donovan's capture in the second part. The Visitors are here portrayed as deadly and the resistance as the ordinary folks they actually were. While the Resistance lost like a dozen people in the armary raid, the visitors lost like 1 or 2 people only (one got covered in flames). And in Mike Donovan's capture, he doesn't get off a single hit and his easily dispatched by the Visitors.

By contrast, the Visitors in The Final Battle couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, while the Resistance suddenly became experts. I think Mike Donovan almost hit a Visitor with every shot he fired! The only one that made sense to be that good was Ham Tyler, since a was an ex marine. But everyone else became able to easily outmatch them too, which was frustrating. I got very annoyed that during every fight in The Final Battle, the Resistance lost like 1 measly guy, while the Visitors lost a whole slew of people. Gone were the clumsiness of the Resistance in the original mini series that made them more like "normal folks", people we could relate to.

This is one fo the reasons why I feel the original is far superior, but not the only one.