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This movie is garbage, anyone agree?


Kim Basinger is bad, Sean Connerey phones in his performance, the villians are good but the pacing is slow and boring, the effects are terrible, not too mention the cheesy scene where Bond plays the video game against the villian which shocks you if you lose. Instead of a casino he had a big arcade room? what the hell?! What was so bad about Thunderball anyway? Leave well enough alone. I would've rather have had George Lazenby in this one. Also, it dosen't even have the gunbarrell credits!!!! The Motorcycle chase was cool, but instead of the Bond theme, you get a lame elevator music jazz score playing over it. If this WAS an official 007, I'd put it in the same class as Moonraker or Diamonds are Forever. CRAP tastic

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I`m sorry but I don`t agree with most of the people here...the film had Sean Connery and that in itself was alright. In fact the numbers in the box office are not that far from octopussy (it wasn`t a runaway winner in bond vs bond category IMO). Some say the theme was cheesy but to me it fits...it was the 80`s and very "bondy theme" like

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Couldn't disagree with you more.

It's my favorite Connery, hands down.

No gun barrel or Bond theme due to legal issues - that wasn't the film's fault. It was an unfortunate obstacle the filmmkaers couldn't overcome...it was among the lawyers.

Basinger was always just a body...what Bond girl wasn't or isn't? Name me one Bond girl who is hailed for her acting prowess.

The game was cool - it was appropros for the 80s. Video games were all the rage in 1983 and Largo liked them...easy to believe a game room at a benefit.

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"Name me one Bond girl who is hailed for her acting prowess."

You didn't try very hard did you ?

Diana Rigg in OHMSS nails the role as a smart Bond girl with real acting credentials.


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Oh come on.....really??

I'm not trying to rob Diana Rigg of her resume, but you know exactly what I mean, and my point is well taken:

Bond girls were cast by and large for their looks, and there are no Meryl Streep-esque thespian goddesses among their ranks.

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First of all this was never an official 007 movie a mere remake of Thunderball was never endorsed by Cubby Brocolli. Moonraker was not bad as for Diamonds are forever was my least favourite of the Connery Bonds but the worst one of all is the latest Quatum of Solace was by far the worst.

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Who cares if this is an "official" Bond movie or not? It's got Sean Connery, a less moronic plot than most Bondage, non-stupid gadgetry (mostly), some decent characters and a great song.
Unfortunately it also has Bernie Casey but nothing's perfect.
Also it's less boring than "Thunderball" in which the underwater scenes seem to go on for weeks.

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The movie is uneven, but I wouldn't call it garbage. It's major highlight is Barbara Carrera, who plays one of the most mentally unstable villains ever in any Bond movie, leaving the main villain barely memorable.

The fact that she's also beautiful enough to be a Bond Girl makes the impact doubly strong. She essentially merges the Bond Girl with the villain, creating a unique situation alluded to in other movies, but only as side characters.

Connery's toupe looks a bit obvious, but I enjoy the film's rawer low-budget style. It almost seems truer to Bond in its roughness and lack of gloss. Connery is old but reminds us why he is the best and crassest, especially in the final interactions with Carrera, where he triumphs by manipulating the narcissism of Carrera's black widow character. He schools Carrera as an elder to a wild youth.

I think calling this movie garbage is ludicrous, honestly. It's no worse than Octopussy, but it does lack the high production values of most Bond movies.

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worst bond by far, yep its garbage.



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I disagree. I thought never say never again was quite good. I Also think Never Say Never is a better film than Thunderball.

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Yeah, it's pretty bad, but there are parts of it that I do kind of like. I think Von Sydow is a legend, I like Fox's entirely different and more aggressive version of M, love the way they actually make reference to his age, and place in the world. But yeah, mostly rubbish in terms of execution, and that title song makes Madonna's much maligned Die Another Day theme look like Beethoven's 9th.

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I actually thought Diamonds are Forever was the worst Bond movie, but I think this one takes the cake. Why did they even bother making this film? It wasn't an Eon production and it shows. Connery didn't have the grace, style, sexiness or coolness that he's had in all the other Bond films. The music and theme song of this movie absolutely sucks to the nth degree, and is it true that the title of this film is related to Connery stating he'd NEVER do another Bond film and then he did this so they titled it NSNA? If so, that is lame. The title of the movie should be related to the story/characters/plot of the movie, not Sean Connery's real-life. This film should have NEVER been made and Sean Connery acted more like a grandpa playing Bond versus Bond, James Bond. And they released it with the same year of Octopussy? What in the world were they thinking? If it isn't an Eon production, then it just isn't Bond. Plain and simple.

I rate this film as the LOWEST and WEAKEST of the Bond franchise.


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Don't agree. Loved the movie. Sorry.

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Same here. This is my favorite Bond.

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