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Last of the 'Tough Guy' movie cops?


I recently watched 48 Hrs. and a couple of the Dirty Harry movies. It seems like the heroes of movies back then were a lot different from what was traditional in Classic Hollywood and the Hollywood of today. These heroes weren't the usual good-looking leading men of Hollywood, but they seemed to have this cool attitude that just said "don't mess with me".

I think Nolte in 48 Hrs. was the last time a character like this was used in a movie. After that I think they just started doing more action-oriented movies with guys like Arnie and Sly, who looked more like bodybuilders. I don't think that's really changed. I was wondering if anyone could think of a movie after 48 Hrs. that had a cool tough guy like Jack Cates or Harry Callahan.

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This thread is somewhat funny 'cause 48 Hrs. was arguably responsible for a new breed of tough guy cop movies.... buddy cop movies! Sure, this one is far edgier and meaner than a lot of those movies, but it did start something kinda new. By the way, perhaps the no-nonsense cop movies that were popular in the late 60's and 70's weren't ruling the 80's, but surely they didn't completely disappear.


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Great movies that are financially successful usually breed a heap of garbage imitations.

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check out 'larry crowne'. the 1st tough guy diner chef movie.




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https://thedissolve.com/features/movie-of-the-week/960-forum-48-hrs/#comment-1912855265

48 Hrs seems like a bridge between the 70s and 80s. Cates comes across like a variation of Popeye Doyle from The French Connection. The language Cates uses would have been acceptable in the movies of that era. Perhaps Hill and the writers felt Cates' language lent the movie an authenticity that was in those revered movies. (It's interesting Murphy's scene stealing moment is an inverse of French Connection's bar room scene)

I really don't think the racism was necessary. Having Cates calling Reggie every racist name in the book didn't endear him to me. Even back then, I can remember my family being taken out of the movie every time he called Reggie "watermelon" and they likely didn't buy his apology either. It was overkill to have Cates be a racist. We already got the impression he wasn't a beacon of virtue. Besides, if Cates' racist language was just a tactic to keep Reggie down, it obviously didn't work.

If I was demeaned by someone over the color of my skin repeatedly and then eventually told not to think anything of it, I wouldn't feel the guy was validated. I'd likely think he's still a racist with deep troubling issues.

https://thedissolve.com/features/movie-of-the-week/959-how-one-performance-changes-everything-in-48-hrs/#comment-1911549034

48 HOURS was actually at the END of a cultural arc, with it's in-your-face but comic take on race relations; the 1970s were FULL of that stuff, with everything from Norman Lear sitcoms to "Blaxploitation" films. It had begun to run out of steam- and seem less culturally relevant- but the social and political conservatism of the 1980s really tamped down that fire.

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Dudes, Kurt Russell in dark blue, Denzel in training day. But I guess technically they are villains but they came to mind

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I dont know if 48hrs was the last - but all the other films mentioned in this thread are ancient history too!
So i guess it is a dead genre!
Training Day was the newest film mentioned in this thread so far, and that was 18 years ago

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