For the most part I don't have any music that was made after 1984 and I was just thinking whouldn't it be nice if I could listen to something new that wasn't ashlee simpson, brittany spears, or eminime. All of this new wave of "artist" are well .....boring. It seems like everyone is ethier singing about how sexy they look or smacking some girls ass.I am 26 and when people my age come over they act like I am a grandpa when I play something that isn't full of profainity or have an dosen't have album cover that promises nudity.Is rock truly dead.
Yes, music it dead. The Band was the last of it's breed so you're going to have to go alternative. Go underground young man! Drive-by Truckers, Junior Brown, Omar and the Howlers, Gillian Welch and David Rawlins. Go back to the influences. Bessie Smith, Son House, John lee Hooker, Muddy Waters. Go to Johnny Cash and Hank Williams Sr. We got no choice unless you want to spend the rest of you life puking in the car over what comes over your radio.
There is all kinds of great music out there, you have to actually look for it, though. Gone are the days when yer local radio station would bring you cool tunes. Ya know, most of THE BAND's music would not really be seen as rock music today, more like one of those wishy-washy categories like "alt.country" or some such. If you are into this kind of music, check out BLUE RODEO - great harmonies, intelligent songwriting, good musicianship and authentic emotion - these are the things that characterised The Band's music.
I whole-heartedly agree and have often thought about whether rock is dead. It doesn't get much better than The Band and for the most part music now is nothing more than weak, mediocre crap. There is still good music going on it is just not in the mainstream and can be hard to find, but I am enjoying going back in time and discovering some of the great artists from back in the day. As a 27 year old it is refreshing and also reassuring to know that there are other people of my generation who actually know who The Band are and love their music.
As an old hippie, ex flower child (gone to seed) I must comment. The music of the 60's and 70's was inspired by the events of that era. We were turning on, tuning in and dropping out. Today's materialistic, self-serving population will never spawn that era's genius. I have hope for the US only because I see that it is the youth who are not taken in by the current admin with their plans for Corporate America. (Didn't mean to get political...but the politics of that time, inspired some of the greatest music.) However, today Van the Man is still making great music. Black Crows sound just like good ol' 70's stuff. And Lucinda Williams is awesome! When I think of our freedom of those times to sing loud and clear of our dissent, and then compare today's atmosphere of banning the playing of anti-war songs in the media, the blacklisting of acts, such as Dixie Chicks due to a few derogatory remarks about our paranoid, thin-skinned leader....I am so sad to see the demise of freedom in the US!!
basically they don't play the band on the radio where i live except for one song which is now and always was played out(cripple creek) and they don't play bob dylan except once in a blue moon heaven's door will play but it's usually bob dylan covers they like to play and not bob dylan himself. After Richard Manuel killed himself(for obvious reasons, look at our world today), and Rick Danko died there really can be no band reunion. The Last Waltz for me represents the last of that type of music, I mean no one will ever again be like the band unless they are covering and they study it for their profession, but even then they really can't be like the band, that's how special the band is.
there are no stupid questions, only stupid people who ask questions.
I know exactly where you're coming from and I have found myself in that same situation numerous times with a lot of my friends. Just a simple, laid-back afternoon/evening cookout and maybe even a few hands of Texas Hold'em, and before long, someone(if not everyone) wants to hear some tunes. They almost always say "It doesn't matter, just play something." So I take it upon myself to give them a taste of what I consider to be "real" music, perhaps cranking up The Band, some old Little Feat albums, CCR, or even some Grateful Dead. Within a minute or so of the first song, the questions and comments start rolling in.
"Who the hell is this?" "Are these people still alive?" "What is this garbage?" (the only question that bothers me) "I've never heard this before." (my personal favorite) "What year is this from?"......and so on and so on and so on.
I typically give them MY crash course in Music 101, and explain a little bit about the artist/band/album that I chose to play. Most of the time they will open their minds and listen. Other times they will just turn their nose up at the music and never give it a chance.
I'm only a few years older than you(pushing 30....REALLY pushing), and it seems like so many people my age, or close to it, are listening to all of the bubble gum pop, alternative rock, American Idol, and catch-phrase country music that is blasted morning, noon, and night on FM radio. While I refuse to judge them based on the music they choose to listen to, it's just not my cup of tea. I always have, and always will, prefer the talented musicians of the 60's and 70's, whose songs still mean more than most of today's "chew em up, spit em out" artists ever will.
As far as music like that which is performed in The Last Waltz ever returning.....it has. It's just not in the mainstream and you may have to dig around a little bit to find it. There's a large number of artists/bands that are making great music these days, and you're most likely to find these musicians by that old-fashioned advertising.....word of mouth.
I was recently informed of a website....www.archive.org/audio....that allows downloads of entire concerts/shows by "trade-friendly" artists. You can also choose to download individual songs from whatever concert you're interested in. The site contains quite a few "jam" bands, and while the dominant force on the website is the Grateful Dead, with well over 2000 shows to download, there are other bands and artists that may interest you. With over 1000 artists and 20,000+ concerts available, I'm sure the site contains something you'll find to your liking.
Not to get carried away, but... -Grateful Dead -Warren Zevon -Little Feat(old & new) -Country Joe McDonald -Robert Randolph and the Family Band -Derek Trucks Band -String Cheese Incident -Radiators -Dirty Dozen Brass Band -Mutual Admiration Society are just a few bands that are listed on the archive.
When I first started downloading from archive.org/audio, I was overwhelmed by the amount of great music that was right at my finger tips. The site also contains some artists that I've never heard of before, so I simply pick a band name at random and give them a try. I've been able to find many "diamonds in the rough" using that method.
My #1 Diamond in the rough -- New Monsoon...fantastic band with a very tight sound and amazing musicianship.
Give the archive a try, and find yourself some new music to enjoy. Spread the word.
-When we're done with it, you can have it- J. Garcia
all rigth all right we all know that rock musics meca was the 70's but hey there is alot of rock music comming out now that is innovative catchy and really good ol fashoned rock and roll I'm only 20 years old but my favorite band is led zeppelin but I look at the bands comming out now like the whitestripes who are incredibly good and very different from the crap you hear on a pop radio station but there was sh!tty pop music in the 70's too i.e. disco all I'm saying is if you really listen to the music today there is alot of genius out there and some incredibly talonted musicians who are innovative and different but it's still great rock and roll
Will music like this ever return? It would if people figured out like any musician should is what the music is/ made of you could create oodles. Like copying the masters most musicians build on what has already been done somewhat like art but also you have the musicians that sit down and rip out tunes and cant read a note. Hendrix was one... The time was right for music and the music biz went full throttle. Never had bands enjoyed overnight success it was incredible that you could make a Montage (a composite picture made by combining several separate pictures) poster equivalent to a flier. Post it around town and get huge crowds to come out and see the Gizmo's band play live in the parking lot by the alley. However, i think it snowballed and maybe even bubbled by 1970-71 and it broke. You can try and insert a reason and it could/would be valid about what happened back then to the musics big time Psychedelic big bam boom. Sort of like getting a chicken bone caught in your throat it started desperately coughing up music Or the big one went off and what did you get nice politilcly correct type music and the birth of DISCO some of which was musically very tasty but ill pass on a lot of it. my quote as to what happened is this So many of the bands musician didn't make it to 1972 that there wasn't the front line of generals any more in music to lead the way, just a backfield in motion.
Come on INDIE ! I found this Internet station called PHOENIX NET in 2000 which is now defunct playing indie from the Southwest and i LIKED a lot of there stuff ( i cant recall any of them, any help) It was real soul full, folksy bluesy, ahcid stuff though and to tell you the truth i wasn't expecting that from a place like Phoenix, AZ, USA. That being said indie stations hold some good ole promise as not blending up the teenage MIX (Concoctions) for Top 40 radio (rock for fourteen year olds) mass marketing hooooeeeey INDIE ROCK has some good N cool stuff with some right recipes. it is an alternative to mainstream music and thats a fact, if it sells well, then they produce it , copy it and promote it. Say, nothing new there. Take them olden day records where every song on an album sounded pretty much the same as the one hit on the album then do it to a whole industry.
You can come over to my a house and i will give you lots of INDIE ...
Music like this will never return. I wish it would but it is not the 50's 60's and 70;s anymore.. Turn on MTV anytime and you see nothing but rap, hip hop and boy band dog *beep* the music that i guess some people consider rock n rol, i.e. Strokes, Hives, Pearl Jam, well i just think they suck...The two best bands out right now are the White Stripes and Widespread Panic..hands down. I saw Widespread Panic two months ago and was blown away. Grant they are a jam band and while jam bands and their groupies of grilled cheese eating, tye dye wearing, tree hugging liberals annoy the *beep* out of me, Widespread has sort of a "classic rock" sound in their music. I mean they do a version of Neil Young's "Walk On," which is a song they did at the show that I saw and several kids didnt even know that it was a Neil Young song. It is probably my favorite Neil Young song and the thing i liked about it is that they kept it real and didnt screw around like Phish sometimes does with Gin N Juice or Gettin Jiggy wit it..As creative as that kind of sounded, i think its kind of lame....As far as the White Stripes goes, they are great...Their music just sounds good to me...Their album Elephant just sounds to me like a collaboration of The Sex Pistols, THe Clash and even Country, especially on the last track of the CD....So in conclusion, Music like The Band will never come back. They are THE BAND..a collaboration of almost every type of music.. To me they are the best thing thats ever happenend to music....If you want proof, of course watch The Last Waltz, but also, buy the DVD "Classic Albums: The Band" ("The Band" being the name of their second album) and there they go right into how creative and talented The Band were.
If you want intelligent songwriting, I can't say enough things about my current favorite artist, singer/songwriter Beaver Nelson. He has a website, which is appropriately entitled www.beavernelson.com
His best album is "The Last Hurrah", but his most recent release, "Motion" is quite good as well.
He sort of reminds me of a cross between Bob Dylan and Townes van Zandt.
He's certainly not much to look at, but damn can that boy put together a song.
Great stuff.
"I can't so much as drink a damn glass of water around a midget or a piece of antique furniture."
Intelligent AND not much to look at? That is certainly the kiss of death in todays bubblegum craving music business. I will check him out. Townes was so fantastic. RIP.
I have spent some time thinking about where music is going, and going on and on (in my mind and to other people, lol) about how much current music sucks. and how the music back then was way way better, which it was. I've thought about how great it would be if a new band would come out with stuff like back then... but now, I've sort of realized that was was going on then was more than the music. it was a creation of the times, and of all these many many great musicians feeding off of eachother. an album would come out and everyone would have to improve on it. and there was all this going on...there was a whole scene. and for that reason, that good old music will never be recreated, and if something else is going to come out, it will be really different, and might not appeal to people like me whole love the old music...like hip hop. in the early days of hip hop, I take it that there was a bit of a scene going on. that was something...but it wasn't the same thing. any new, big music scene is gonna have to be different. it's either that, or you get these bands I've heard of--Dressy Bessy and the Redwalls, there's others too--that are just building off of what it is 30-40 years old. and there's people saying how good they are, "they sound like the beatles!" or they're really influenced by certain "old" people. but the truth is, they aren't making music from their heart, or their surroundings. They are just in love with the past (as am I) and this makes me think, what does their music mean anyway? if it's just the music, I suppose that's fine for some people, but it can never be exactly the same...and the bands that try to make it the same aren't really doing anything new, like it was back then...and the newness was a big part about what it was back then...so it's not even really the same. so basically...I just think there's stuff there, but no it will NEVER be the same...and all I can do is watch movies and listen to music and dream about how it was...
Sigh. I used to think the same... but now-a-days it's hard to agree with the old "music is dead" cliche.
If anyone thinks that music is 'dead', I suggest they should expand their musical horizons into new territory and perhaps they'll find the substance they're looking for.
I have opened my horizons. I listen to all types of music, alternative, hard rock, rap, R&B, and none of them have any of the feeling that rock from the 60's and 70's, for me at least. I guess I should at least consider myself lucky thatI can still listen to music that was recorded back in the 60's and 70's.
Music has changed because they are being told what to do. MTV is fake, washed down, and phony...Vh1 is right behind...music is controlled also...Basically, the people with the money don't know jack sh*t about music.... The closest you're going to get to some real music in the past ten years goes like this
In my vacation I was in a small bar where some real music lovers played (in a mix band) they played some of the old songs and did it very well. They played the same tracks every 4 nights, and I was there every night.
I mean, from the media you will always only be able to see something about the *beep* mainstream crap. So go get an account in a undergroundmusic forum or something then you'll learn some great underground names who plays REAL music.
My farvorits today is still Jimi Hendrix and Eric Clapton (who still makes great music - Eric Clapton's crossroad guitar festival i.g.)
I think I posted here already, and said I don't think the music will ever return...
But recently I heard the Album Mermaid Avenue, by Wilco and Billy Bragg, doing songs the Woody Guthrie never recorded, just had lyrics. It's interesting because you get to see them making a collaboration between eachother, and Woody Guthrie, and also, there are hints of all THEIR influences, like the Band, who were also influenced by Woody Guthrie and folk music. It's a good album, and it wasn't just repeating the past, or trying to recreate it. It's a good album in and of itself. Not like it was back then, but good.
wait...i'm a couple of years younger than you...i'm 12 ...and i have 60 dylan albums and 100 cd's from 60's and 70's...and i know that music like dylan's and the band's or whatever,won't return ever,and that music cannot be replaced ever .i listen to those records all the time.no one in my class,school,city or even country listens that music anymore!i think it's just SAD that everybody now listens britney or somethin,that's not even MUSIC.
no, in response to the post topic they don't even play the band on the radio, which they shouldn't because the radio takes songs out of the context of the album which is tainted. the radio used to play whole albums but now they play one or two songs of albums because playing the whole album would cause chaos. what came first the movie or the trailer?