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TRANS AMS CAN NOT DO THOSE THINGS IN THIS MOVIE


TRANS AMS BACK THEN WERE OVERWEIGHT ILL HANDLEING SLUGGISH EMISSION CLOGGED GAS PIGS WITH LITTLE OR NO HORSEPOWER AND PROBABLY COULD NOT BEAT A STATION WAGON IN THE QUARTER BUFORDS CAR WAS PROBABLY FASTER AND IT WAS A 4 DOOR!!!!!!!!!!!

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so what?
Everyone knows, no regular car can do that kind of stuff.
Big "who cares?"

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The car had a 455 c.i. big block in it. They got a whopping 200 hp out of the motor from the factory, however, any competent gearhead could easily more than double that. He was a racer, so I'm sure he knew engines. Since Bandit wasn't going to be pulling over for any emissions tests during his trip, we can assume that some mods were done to the car. Just the sound when he first starts it up should be a clue that it aint stock. Could a car stand up to all that abuse? Of course not, but it's not a documentary is it.

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Pontiacs had tall blocks, no small or big blocks. He easily could have swapped out the crank for a 60's Ram Air IV, or GTO 389, or even a SD455. Besides these T/As can handle fairly well. A Fire Am, special trans am package built by racer Herb Adams, handles extremely well. Nearly on par with new mustangs.

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The hood says 6.6 liter, which was good for 180 horses.

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They must have changed them so they matched cause you couldnt get a 4spd without the w72 pakage that brought 200hp in 77 and 220 in 78&79

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"Let's jump something else! I wanna jump a house!!"


;-)



And now for something completely different...

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"Jump Me."

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Heh heh heh heh... I always wondered if she heard that since he says it pretty quietly. I certainly would have taken him up on the offer. ;-)



And now for something completely different...

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We know. The cars were highly modified for performance. Youre not going to get that kind of exhaust note through a catalytic converter. Just as the Bonnevilles frames were reinforced. If you were to shear off the roof like they did, the car would fold in half.
Just enjoy the movie for its own sake. No one in that movie had to worry about making an acceptance speech at the Academy Awards that year.

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The cars used for all the driving and stunts did have beefier engines installed. The sounds of the Trans Am when it was accelerating were dubbed in. They supposedly were from a Chevy with a 454 and a manual transmission.

If Bandit would have had more time he could have taken the T/A and had the engine built up,plus mods to the suspension,brakes,ect. Thus adding to the "believability" of the Trans Am doing the things that it did. But as everyone else has said this movie is to just be enjoyed for the fun that it is.

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Yes, we all know that Trans-Ams were not equipped with flux-capacitors and were ill-equipped to be in any film that required them to achieve a speed of 88 miles-per-hour.

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Snort! Get back to 1985, Marty! Another classic "car movie."

"You made a time machine...out of a Delorean?"

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BULL$HIT WHITE BOY!!! TRANS AMS KICKS ASS!!!

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NEWS FLASH!!!!!! IT'S A MOVIE. It isn't real.

The "General Lee" couldn't do all the things it did in the Dukes of Hazzard and survive. No matter how you equip them.

Delorians do not travel back in time. Even modified ones.

You can't do the things they did in Days of Thunder to actual Stock Cars and expect them to perform the way they did in the movie. Not then, not now, not ever.


Pro Wrestling isn't actual sport either. Do you want to tell us something we don't already know?

Did you know Burt Reynolds didn't actually do all the driving we are made to believe he did?

Movies. Those deceitful b*stards.

Of course that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
I'm not, but I could be.

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"The "General Lee" couldn't do all the things it did in the Dukes of Hazzard and survive. No matter how you equip them"

Actually, I thought that I recall hearing that the Dodge Charger in the Dukes of Hazard did quite well for itself . . .

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Actually, I thought that I recall hearing that the Dodge Charger in the Dukes of Hazard did quite well for itself . . .



Er... because there is no 's' on the back of what should be Challenger I'm going to assume you think there was only on car used... 30 cars were destroyed in the making of the movie and 300 cars were destroyed in the making of the show. Every time one of those cars were jumped it was totaled, any of these show or movies this is the same story, Knight Rider, Dukes of Hazzard, Smokey and the Bandit, etc... at the very least, when these cars land the frame is twisted the suspension is destroyed, parts fall off... no car can or will do well for itself.


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LOL, exactly. Movies have required suspension of disbelief to one extent or another from the very beginning of silent shorts, even the ones depicting "everyday" life. How else could we enjoy the great musicals-who knows people who sing their conversation or declarations of love to other people? Much less dance them? Good golly, no wonder some young women get messed-up body images, they don't seem to realise how much of that perfection to which they compare themselves isn't even real for the women (actresses) being portrayed. Who could live real life always under flattering lighting, with a make-up artist constantly at their elbow, being seen all their lives from their "best angles" and through camera effects designed to flatter? You suspend your disbelief, to a reasonable extent as the movie calls for, to enjoy the movie, then you return to real life knowing but not worrying about the fact that that suspension was required (unless the film asks for too much suspension for the tacitly agreed-upon terms, depending upon what kind of movie it is). I thought people figured this out while fairly young as movie goers.

In the case of S&TB, without suspension of disbelief, who would believe that not one kid got hurt after Frog crashed through the middle of a football game? But it's a fun action movie, so that much suspension is a reasonable request of the viewer, as is the presumption that no LEO were hurt in all the crashes, spills, etc, during the course of the chase. For a lightweight, fun, action movie, it's a reasonable request to suspend one's belief that no one gets hurt, the heroes don't get caught.

Now, if it had been a more serious movie, or a documentary, that wouldn't be such a reasobnable request of the viewers by the film makers. But in either of those cases, most of those crashes wouldn't be happening in the first place, because Bandit and Snowman would be busted before they got too far, driving like they did, but then, there'd be no movie as we know and love it, and that would be a bad thing, as it's one of my all-time favorites on its own terms ;)

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I liked that response

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"Movies have required suspension of disbelief "

Obviously. Without this, there wouldn't be many movies in existence.

But movies like THIS really stretch that concept to its maximum extreme and then try to stretch it a bit more, which kinda pisses off people that would like to be able to ENJOY the movies, but the movie itself tries to destroy that possibility by being just too cartoony, too wacky, and requiring TOO MUCH suspension of disbelief.

There's just so much a disbelief can suspend.

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I have owned a 78, 400 cid. 4spd Trans am for over twenty years. The cars with the Pontiac 400 in 77 were rated at 200hp and 320lbs torque. With very little mods they could run mid to low 14 second quarter mile times. A cam and headers, would get you into 13's . This was not bad at all for the late 70's, but because of the rear gears manual trans cars could only do about 120mph. As far as handling, late 70's Trans Am's were some of the best handling and road holding cars in the world limited by tire technology of the day. If you ever have a chance to drive one, they are a blast.

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High Performance Pontiac Magazine took a stock 77 4spd,rejetted the carb,installed 2.25 duals and ran a 13.20.I bought a 2001 T/A with a 6speed added a Ls1 motorsports lid,gmpp 85mm maf and a 3"Dynomax cat back with a hypertech programmer and ran a 13.20 with a fresh clutch.The ls car would have posted a better time with drag radials and a higher launch rpm,but then again so would the 77.

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14.20 not 13.20. 400flywheel hp needed to move a 3750lb car in 13.20. Not feasible with a nearly stock T/A 6.6 engine.

Hot Rod drove a Stock 1979 T/A 6.6 4spd with no air conditioning to a 14.61@ 96.67 mph.

http://transamcountry.com/community/index.php?topic=41925.0

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Oh *beep*

Didn't you ever see The Dukes of Hazzard? All you have to do is yell "YEE-HAW!!!" and the car will fly.

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