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THINK about this film and slavery in general? Do you really feel bad for what your ancestors did to blacks, do you care or do you feel it has nothing to do with you?

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My father's family moved to the USA in about 1900- My ancestors had nothing to do with American slavery, except one guy on my mother's side who fought for the Union, and to END slavery. No slave owners, no slave traders, so kindly leave me out of it.
Also, the people of all races alive today are as far removed from slavery as they are from the building of the Suez Canal. In 2015, no one gets special credit or consideration for having an ancestor who worked on the canal; why should people today be blamed for what was done more than 150 years ago? Or receive special consideration for having ancestors who were slaves? Reasonable people would conclude that there is a "statute of limitations" on passing down blame for the crimes of centuries ago. If you're not willing to hunt down the living descendants of Al Capone to blame them for his crimes, why are the descendants of slave holders (not to mention people who have NO ancestral connection whatsoever to slavery) still blamed for the past sins of people long dead? Slavery was a horrible wrong- and remains so today for the tens of thousands of people used as forced laborers or sexual slaves (like the prostitutes who are forced to walk our streets and service strangers). Instead of lamenting about wrongs done hundreds of years ago, why not get on board with ending slavery TODAY, when it will actually make a difference?

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by uniqueproductions » Mon Apr 9 2007 12:06:44
THINK about this film and slavery in general?

AFAIK, every civilization up until fairly receintly has had some form of "slavery" ... or even indentured servitude, though some could "opt-in" for a 7 year contract to gain passage to the new world (and would be paid little to 0 in monentary compensation), they were - at least for the most part "free" - except if they made some bad choices and got into debt - then they would have no choice, but then in some areas - you were even unable to hunt on the "kings land" which was all the land ... even if it ment your family would starve... but I digress.

Do you really feel bad for what your ancestors did to blacks, do you care or do you feel it has nothing to do with you?

So there is an assumption there that everyone's ancestors did something bad to "blacks" whatever the fvck that means?

What about the tribal ancestors in England, Scotland and Ireland ... or even Africa or the Mediterranean that sold other humans into slavery, but maybe never had any slaves beyond that? What of all the slavers today - from the Mid East to Timbuktu and beyond?

I'm not sure I could feel bad for the past, though some people love to make the suffering part of the present, even if they were never "directly" affected by the that past. Sometimes, people just want to prevent their own happiness, though this is the way of the World. Sometimes, misery loves company - then they can riot in good conscious, yet only if they are willfully ignorant and care nothing of their children's future.

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As a person generally classified as "white" by anti-discrimination agencies, I can only speak for myself. I loved this film and felt terrible, sick to my stomach about what happened to the slaves. BUT, since I come from a minority group myself, I don't feel bad or guilty. Let me explain:

My people became a minority group when they had no other option than to travel from country to country, city to city to find work, somewhere in or around the 18th century. We were then classified heathens despite being strict catholics, and became fair game for people to rob, beat, enslave or kill us. In fact, it was encouraged. Gruesome tales were being told, from us stealing babies and eating them to strange blood-rituals and being able to predict the future with the devil's help. We were lumped together with the Roma and Sinti people despite having a completely different culture, and eventually some of us did start mixing with Roma and Sinti, who are most widely known by the derogatory term "gypsy". In WWII, many of us were put into the camps and killed. We are with around 30.000 people and every single family has had someone killed in the concentration camps.

To this day, we get no recognition for what happened to us. And even when we experience discrimination, which happens on a wide scale (for me, I experience it daily. Not directed to me, since I keep quiet about my cultural background, but to others of which it is known), we are not taken seriously because on the outside, we still look caucasian.

I think that you can see now that there is absolutely no way my family could be involved in slave trade or other such activities. Because of that, I don't feel guilty at all just because of the color of my skin. That's ridiculous. Former slaves living in the Caribbean have enslaved my people and taken them from Europe to their country. My people were even treated worse than the black people when they were slaves. Should I hold all black people accountable for that or...?

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Of course this has nothing to do with me. It hasn't much to do with most white Americans, since the majority of our ancestors came here AFTER slavery was abolished.

But if you're interested, you can still do something to stop slavery. Slavery still exists in some African and Arab countries. Just like in the old days, blacks are enslaving other blacks; you can do a lot to stop it since it's currently happening as we speak!

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People who bitch and moan about slavery do NOT want to actually help slaves. I've posted a message similar to yours on many message boards under this type of thread and never get a positive reply. They would rather just hate on the people they have been taught to hate(whitey) than to actually help another human being who is enslaved.

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A white person can talk about all the evils of slavery in America and the history of the world until their face turns into Papa Smurf, but anybody filled with hate and resentment in their heart is going to hate them irregardless. I could go to all the rally's supporting equal rights for everybody, but that won't stop me from being murdered over the color of my skin just because somebody off the beam sees me, hates me without even knowing me simply because I'm white, and shoots me in the head on the street. I could provide piece after piece of evidence of how I'm not prejudice, had no family members who were slave owners or even supported slavery, had parents that taught me that racism is wrong, and studied on my own about the trials and tribulations of those who dealt with prejudice long after slavery was over. I could explain that when I was growing up, my parents only allowed my siblings and I to stay up for events like "Roots" and "Holocaust", that my mother had us watch "A Patch of Blue" to show us what modern prejudice looked like, yet that won't stop someone from treating me with disrespect by deliberately bumping into me or referring to me as "cracker" or "whitey" or anything else they think might cause me to start a confrontation (which I refuse to) or try to make me feel paranoid walking down the street. I could wear a T-Shirt that says "Human being who just happens to be male who just happens to be white", and I'd still be labeled in a hateful way by some. Fortunately, I meet many people of all races and backgrounds who judge by character, not by color. They won't be around me 24/7 to protect me when prejudice towards me rears its ugly head. That's the way life is in this sad, unfixable world of ours, and I've just learned to do my best to avoid trouble and leave it in the hands of God.

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Honestly I don't those scumbags had any business going to Africa and abducting those Africans. What gave them any right to do that? I wish at the beginning they would have found a way to kill those ignorant white bastards.

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Africans enslaved Africans. Jewish and Christian(white people) from Europe/America came in MERCHANT ships(not WAR SHIPS) and bought the enslaved Africans from the African slave owners. Ask an African if slavery of his/her/zher ancestors was his fault. Ask him to apologize to his fellow African American.

Every race of humans has been slave and slave owner. Stop spreading your silly SJW crap.

To answer your question directly, NO.
1. I have no proof that my family were slave owners since only about 2 percent of Americans were it is very unlikely that my family would have had slaves.
2. If somehow I was able to prove that my ancestors did own slaves would I feel bad for them, YES. Slavery is horrible. Would I feel guilty? NO. Why not? Because in this scenario I am innocent(not guilty) of the charges of owning or selling slaves. So there is no reason to feel guilt. This SJW premise is silly.

Finally, I will list the guilty people for African slavery in North America. European/American Jews, European/American Christians, and Africans( I will not guess at their religion, sorry ).

If anyone actually, truly, cares about slavery, fight it TODAY. There are plenty of slaves in the world. Do something to help them. There are slaves in several African countries, all over the Middle East too.

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