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Such a freaking stupid movie.


Im not going to rant about how stupid this movie was, as the title may suggest, but man, it was stupid. I saw it on flix a few weeks ago at a friends house, and man, it was so bad. We couldnt stop laughing at its immense stupidity and lack of anything that made actual sense. It was stupid but man was it funny. Unfortunately, we watched it a second time and the laughs went away. It went from stupid funny to just stupid. It was like "Dude wheres my car?" in the sense that it only works the first time around, and after that it just like "what?"


Yep.

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C'mon Lothar, which one are you? Beevis or Butthead? C'mon , own up!

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Only an American fool would call this British classic stupid. Not that I'm calling all Americans fools, only the ones who have no brains through lack of a decent upbringing & education.

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Part of 'getting' and enjoying this movie is liking - or at least knowing about - the whole Who 'scene', that is, mods. It isn't necessary, but it was released at the time and naturally that subculture formed part of the target audience.

But it isn't at all necessary. Just watch it, stop ridiculing everything you see automatically, don't take it so seriously and allow yourself to absorb it. Enjoy the music. Then again, if you don't like The Who you won't like this in a million years.

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Shanks, I must respectfully disagree. I was not a Who fan when this came out, and still am not (I prefer Shirley Bassey and Dusty Springfield, to be honest). But the visuals of this film, the amazing direction and acting (particularly Ann-Margret, one of the most under-rated actresses in film history), and yes, the incredible score all combined to make this one of the favorite films of my life.

This movie was (in part) about expanding one's limits. I can't help but think that those who diss it have a strong investment in keeping their limits (and ther status quo) as they are.

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I agree totally that this mess was "such a freaking stupid movie". My counter-culture friends and I saw it when it came out in '75 and couldn't believe all the stupidity and inflated self-importance. The only good musical scene in the movie that I remember was the Acid Queen's training of Tommy. Tina was hot; the movie was not.

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I'd like to add my two cents here.

Ok so I'm only 13 and I just recently saw this movie after listening to the entire soundtrack on a trip with my mum, I didn't really understand the story from the soundtrack but when I watched the movie it all made sense. This is a beautiful, captivating work of art. The music was mindblowing, and the the music scenes where just perfect and made the music even better. The plot, though a little hazy at first devloped over the course of the movie, and was just undescribly perfect. Well thats all I have to say.

Wait no I take that back, there is no "age problem" when seeing this movie, no one is too young or too old to understand it, the problem is people who are not open minded enough, or too ignorant to understand it's true meaning.

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I'd like to add my two cents here.

Ok so I'm only 13 and I just recently saw this movie after listening to the entire soundtrack on a trip with my mum, I didn't really understand the story from the soundtrack but when I watched the movie it all made sense. This is a beautiful, captivating work of art. The music was mindblowing, and the the music scenes where just perfect and made the music even better. The plot, though a little hazy at first devloped over the course of the movie, and was just undescribly perfect. Well thats all I have to say.

Wait no I take that back, there is no "age problem" when seeing this movie, no one is too young or too old to understand it, the problem is people who are not open minded enough, or too ignorant to understand it's true meaning.


Cool--I saw TOMMY when it first came out, and the reasons why I loved it then and now can be expressed by a 13-year-old who just saw it for the first time. It's nice to see that there are still those who can appreciate it.

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I felt the same way, my dad loves the movie and he showed it to me and I thought it was terible and sort of corny and the singing was pretty bad. Usually I like wierd movies or old movies, but this was just stupid.

Then I saw it live a while ago and it was great! It was one of the best musicals I ever saw.
The plot actually made sense instead of the whole thing being a bunch of "psychadellic" images

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Hmm, well I like to think I'm fairly open minded, but some mates and I watched Tommy and thought it was a colossal pile of rubbish. We'd have been more lenient if it had had some decent tunes (Pinball Wizard excepted), but it didn't, so we weren't.

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By the way, we decided the best way to sum up this film is that it's the bastard offspring of A Clockwork Orange and Sesame Street.

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I just can't stand people who only like Pinball Wizard. Its really nowhere near the best song on the album. Its just has little catchy tune and, quite frankly, nerdy lyrics (even Pete said so).
Listen to Sparks, Christmas (the see me, feel me bit), Eyesight to the Blind, the Acid Queen, 1921, We're not gonna take it, Sensation and there you will find real works of art. If you don't go and listen to Green Day and Blink 182 !!!

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I cannot emphasize how much I agree with you. Saw this yesterday on an ART-channel and it really is absolute silly. I like Daltrey, I like The Who, but this sheer look-how-important-i-am stupidity really makes you wonder what it is that people enjoy it for. Can I make a link in stupidity to Hair?

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I wonder if you didn’t really write this ridiculously subversive paragraph, just to start a debate. Is it possible that you need attention that badly? Your views, as they're stated, are completely devoid of any meaning, which is remarkably hypocritical considering that’s your complaint about Tommy. William Faulkner’s line immediately springs to mind as an analogy for your words, “a tale told by an idiot full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." Unfortunately, you probably won't understand what I'm saying, given your limited vocabulary and apparent lack of depth or education. Best watch one of the vignettes -individually- and perhaps you'll at least recognize an incredibly remarkable performance by Paul Nicholas...

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“A tale told by an idiot full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." I would have to say that statement sums up this movie completely. I am a big fan of the Who, always have been, and think that Tommy the album, while having its flaws, is fantastic. What this movie should have boiled down to is the music, but the versions of the songs in the movie are horrible (with Pete as musical director even!). My favorite from the album, "Go to the Mirror" has been reduced from a father lamenting about being unable to reach his son to pure, silly, stupid camp. Even the best song in the movie, "Eyesight to the Blind" is given a less than stellar performance by Eric Clapton. While the music rocks, he sounds half asleep. All in all this is a waste of incredible talent and effort. Why is it that when material of this nature is turned into a film, that instead of taking it seriously it is made into camp? Camp is more entertaining when it’s unintentional. Intentional camp like this is just crap.

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If you are including Paul Nicholas' incredibly skillful and charismatic cameo, as Cousin Kevin, in your critique I must strenuously disagree, otherwise, you do make a compelling point...

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I love the original album, its one of the greatest albums of all time. I think the movie is awful though. Maybe it's just because I wanna hear Roger Daltrey sing and not everyone else.

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William Faulkner’s line immediately springs to mind as an analogy for your words, “a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

Exqueeze me. If Faulkner ever wrote that, he was quoting Shakespeare. Macbeth, Act V, Scene V.



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William Faulkner's -- "The Sound and the Fury"

The title of the novel is taken from Macbeth's soliloquy in act 5, scene 5 of William Shakespeare's Macbeth:

"Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day
To the last syllable of recorded time,
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing."


Most immediately obvious is the idea of a "tale told by an idiot", in this case Benjy, whose version of the Compsons' story opens the novel. This idea can also be extended to the other two narrators, Quentin and Jason, whose narratives display their own respective varieties of idiocy. More to the point, however, the novel is recounting the death of a family, including some of its members, as well as the decline of the traditional upper-class Southern family. This is the significance of "The way to dusty death". The last line is, perhaps, the most meaningful; Faulkner later says in his speech upon being awarded the Nobel Prize in Literature that people must write about things that come from the heart, or "universal truths". Otherwise, he states, the ideas published signify nothing.

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americans eh! i bet you still think the twin towers were brought down by muslims!

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Try watching this movie in an altered state of conscience. It becomes the greatest movie ever made.

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that's very true

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"Try watching this movie in an altered state of conscience. It becomes the greatest movie ever made."

I agree! This movie is a masterpiece and Ken Russell is one of the greatest genius in cinema! That's not entertainment, it's Art. Ok ok, Art is a boring idea.

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Okay so i love the who, and my dad loves the who and everything about this movie, and i am young but he's been listening to the who since they first came out, but h e thinks that this movie doesn't pay any respects to how good the who are. Ken Russel didn't do a very good job. But we're not dissing the Who, we're dissing Ken Russel, sorry to anyone who likes him that is just our opinion.

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