Suitable for my child? - La montaña sagrada (1975) Discussion

[–] stoned_soldier 18 years ago

That really depends on his maturity level. I would say no. Watch it first, then decide. Seems simple to me, and I'm not a parent.

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[–] landersandrockwell 17 years ago

this idiot is clearly a troll. people always come on the boards and say "hey, can my 10 year old kid watch 'x' movie?" they're just trying to get a rise out of the over-sensitive, gullible, puritans who live in this country. unfortunately, anyone who has seen a jodorowsky film is probably liberal enough that they would say "go for it."

The guy's name is Brock Landers.
And his partner is Chest Rockwell.
Those are some great names!

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[–] carverbrian 18 years ago

I would say, Why not? As long as you don't have a problem with excessive nudity. If anything, I think a 13 year old would get bored..it's a bit surreal for most kids that age.

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[–] BobLennon123 14 years ago

hehe I was 13, (14 now) when I started listening to psychedelic music and watching psychedelic movies. I want to watch this movie so much.

"Nobody is free, even the birds are chained to the sky" - Bob Dylan

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[–] julesquimby 18 years ago

[you in a previous post]

"i am 12 and i seen hostel and texas chainsaw and some other movies.."

You claim to have a 13 year old? What age are you, really?

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[–] Dali-Fan 18 years ago

Note how he wrote " . . . GET my . . . to watch it with me."

Sounds like he's asking questions on how to coerce a 13 yr old to watch it with him. Creepy.

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[–] iscream22 18 years ago

Nah i would say no. Maybe when theyre around 18 but i know when i was 13 my mom wouldve been pissed.

*for shizzle*

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[–] Strazdamonas 15 years ago

maybe he is his own father?

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[–] icanseehimrightnow 15 years ago

It's obviously a joke

"*beep* you, Mr. Bitey!"

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[–] matrixj23 18 years ago

I think it is healthy for parents to be open-minded and expose their children to a wide array of stimuli. It tends to lead to a more well-adjusted adult with less hang-ups...

If parents demonize and try to prevent a teenager from seeing something, it will only make them want to see it more, and they will go behind your back to see it. Openness and honesty really are the best policy...

However, this is a pretty bugged-out and psychedelic film. If your child is not of the artistic disposition, they may grow bored and lose interest. I think it would be a great film to watch with your child, it could lead to intelligent discussions about Spirituality and Art...

"Belief is the Death of Intelligence" - Robert Anton Wilson

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[–] ausi-sis 18 years ago

I think it is healthy for parents to be open-minded and expose their children to a wide array of stimuli. It tends to lead to a more well-adjusted adult with less hang-ups...

This is why I watch porn with my kids.... um, not.

Innocence is like virginity, we only have it once and then it's gone forever. -Dennis Prager.

Anyhow, your kid is not going to like this movie if you decide to subject her to it.

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[–] artisan1475 18 years ago

I loved your response and you are so right!! Thanks for the Prager quote, I think i'll forward it to all my friends with kids.

My kids are in their early 20's now and I was pretty open, but didn't see why i should risk their feelings of safety and security by subjecting them to horror movies before they were old enough.

Anyway, I liked how you summed this up and I second your opinion!!

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[–] nihilistic_tyranny 17 years ago

This movie is far from being porn.
Porn is nudity and sexual acts for gratification.
The Holy Mountain is not.
Seeing these sorts of sexual acts and nudity can be, in fact, very healthy for a child.
A three year old...that's a little much.
I would say wait until thirteen.
They are old enough to know not to imitate the behavior in this film, so it should be fine.
If the child is extremely sensitive however, it might shake them up a bit.
(I'm talking a 13 year old that quakes in fear while watching Jumanji. Yes, that's an example from my own experience. I really know someone like that.)

On a side note, I compare this film to losing your virginity. It's awkward, strange, beautiful, alien, and it leaves you feeling slightly violated. However, in the end, it's worth it.

Apathy...
It's a beautiful thing.

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[–] that_guy_who_looks_stone 16 years ago

"Anyhow, your kid is not going to like this movie if you decide to subject her to it. "

...im 14, and i love this film as i do most of Jodorowski's work. however, i would say i am of a vague minority of kids my age who can, if not understand, at least appreciate the sort of surrealism that the Holy Mountain is known for.

in answer to your question, (although i do have my suspicions that you are, in fact, a "troll") i would say that if your child is like me and is filmatically (if that wasnt a word, it is now) mature beyond his/her years, then it is fine.

if, however, your child is like the vast majority of 13 year-olds, not only would it bore and confuse the *beep* out of them, it would quite possibly disturb them alot.

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[–] johnmichael-2 16 years ago

If parents demonize and try to prevent a teenager from seeing something, it will only make them want to see it more, and they will go behind your back to see it.

Too true, way too true! That's me all over! My parents seriously try not to watch any movie that's rated more than PG-13. My Dad can't even watch the Bourne series because it's too violent for him. But I happen to think that about 95% of all movies truly worth watching are going to be rated R or higher. So there's definitely been a conflict of interest throughout my high school years (I am now at college). The worst thing about it was that they were totally uninformed about the movies they wanted me to watch. I said: "I'm either going to get Braveheart or Memento from the library." And my mom was like, "Get Braveheart," mostly because a good Christian friend of hers said it was her favorite movie. But "Memento" was a ton less violent, and Braveheart glorified the revenge aspect that Memento tried to qualify. Then I said, "I want to get either Rosemary's Baby or Angels in America from the library." My Mom says, "Angels in America," because it doesn't have an MPAA rating, being for TV. But of course it's more graphic that Rosemary, and it is a lot more morally challenging. Then she took me and my twin brother to watch "City of Men" without a fuss (she didn't accompany us, though; she just drove), while it took 30 minutes to convince my parents to let us see "Pan's Labyrinth", simply because she thought the trailer looked more violent.

Parents: IF YOUR KIDS TRULY WANT TO WATCH A FILM, BUT YOU'RE CONCERNED, WATCH IT WITH THEM! If you don't, they're sure as eff going to watch it anyway, and you might as well be there to give parental guidance.

I'm not saying to let your 10-year-olds watch "Cannibal Holocaust" if they ask. Explain to them EXACTLY why you don't want them to watch a film, being totally honest and totally knowledgeable about the movie. If that still doesn't dissuade them, then brace yourself and watch the damn thing. And if it messes them up, it's their own fault. They would have watched it anyway--at least be there to support them.

I dearly wish my parents had chosen the line of parental guidance instead of parental prevention. So don't you other parents make the same mistake.

P.S. I don't know how much this diatribe pertains to this film, though, because I'm seriously not sure if anyone below 15 would actually be remotely interested in watching this film

"Introduce a little anarchy." ~The Joker
"We Fascists are the only true anarchists." ~The Duke

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[–] thesightofpens 18 years ago

I am 13 and I've seen el topo, I am going to see this one but I have a maturity about movies (not trying to brag) and an understanding of why hings are put where they are

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[–] iscream22 18 years ago

Oh i completely agree on not censoring things from kids. Most kids around that age arent mature enough for the highly risque and "sacreligious" themes found in Holy Mountain. If the kid really wants to see the movie sure let him see it, because if he really wants to check it out, he'll get his hands on it by himself soon enough like i used to do haha.

*for shizzle*

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[–] Yxklyx 18 years ago

The Holy Mountain is much more "adult" in nature than El Topo.

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[–] iscream22 18 years ago

Agreed. If your kid really wants to see this movie. Id have him or her watch el topo first and then find out if theyre able to grasp that, then let em see the Holy Mountain. They are most certainly not going to understand any of the tarot or religious symbolism (maybe the Christian) but none of the Buddhist or enlightening subjects that are presented near the end of the film. You should have some understanding of the counterculture before seeing the film anyways.

*for shizzle*

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[–] jebgeorgesuk 18 years ago

Is you child down with mythology? Is he able to deal with metaphors, allusion, allegory? Know anything of archetypes? Is sex fornication, procreation, recreation, or violence? The act and the gender?

Can your con trip without drugs?

If so, peace, watch it with him ooo, aah, laugh, and discuss.

Only if your family is open to discussion. As youth (and contrastingly eduction) fades in our society I feel much of worth might be missed while the surface might be over-rated to his loss.

Watch it first and see for yourself.

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[–] Jane_Doe01 17 years ago

I am going to see this one but I have a maturity about movies (not trying to brag)

Yeah, not bragging, sure. I really hope you're just a troll looking for attention. If not, then shut up and go f-cking watch The Incredibles you little creep. You're a f-cking child and you have no maturity about anything, only an eager desperation to impress strangers in lieu of your lack of attention at home and school. Adult movies are made for adult minds and you are made to live like a CHILD. You will never truly grasp something created for an experienced, mature mind without your own experience and maturity to go with it. Stop wasting your life rushing into adulthood(you'll have plenty of time for everything then), and your time posing the internet and go ride your bike, play a sport, be A KID.

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[–] boxdrone 18 years ago

There's alot of weird & screwed up stuff in that movie, but I don't think there's actually anything that would harm a kid of that age by any means. I personally think that your average PG-13 rated action movie is more poisonous to a young mind than something like this, which is highly thought provoking at the very least. All the same, I would highly recomend watching it by yourself first & then decide for yourself.

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[–] iscream22 18 years ago

I'd actually say if the kid is around 13 or 14 he should be mature enough to see this, but I would prefer not to have my child see that kind of stuff. Like I said before if my child really wanted to watch it for some reason, i'd say okay, they'll either get it themselves, or see it soon enough if they really wanted to.

*for shizzle*

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[–] avalco 18 years ago

I would certainly say yes. I have a little nephew who is three and he loves the Holy Mountain. That darn kid just can't get enough of those frogs exploding.

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[–] Overmarz87 18 years ago

I would say yes and no. When i was 13 i saw several of films that i didn't exactly understand then rediscovered them when i was 17 or so. The Holy Mountain is a very complex film and i know i wouldn't have understood most of the symbolism. So as long as he's mature and your willing to discuss/guide your son through the film i don't see why not.

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[–] kasparhauser44 18 years ago

maybe 13 is a bit young, but an average hooror movie or teen sex comedy will probably do more damage than this movie. in fact the brilliant imagery may awake an artistic sensibility in your child that may have lain dormant for a much longer time without this viewing. but i honestly doubt your 13 year old will understand even 1/10 of the film.

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