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So why aren't we overpopulated yet?


Back in the 70s, people kept talking about a population bomb and how the world would end up like this, yet it didn't happen. Why was that? You would think we'd see a Soylent problem in 2013.

Like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel...

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Well There's now 7 billion people on the planet. 200 years ago, there was less than 1 billion.

within the next 50 years there'll be atleast 10 billion.

We are over populated, millions of people are in poverty and have no food to eat.

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Well There's now 7 billion people on the planet. 200 years ago, there was less than 1 billion.

within the next 50 years there'll be atleast 10 billion.

We are over populated, millions of people are in poverty and have no food to eat.


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People starving and living in poverty has much more to do with politics/bad governments and greediness then a lack of resources.

As for the billions of inhabitants. I thought the more affluent the nation/family the less children are born and the more poor the family/nation the more kids are born?

We waste tonnes of food and water every year? This has nothing to do with a lack of resources but waste. In the developed nations were safe drinking water is bountiful people are more prone to leaving the taps running-yet in a desert water is seen as gold.


Food wastage facts

http://www.thisisrubbish.org.uk/resources/10-flooring-food-waste-facts /

http://england.lovefoodhatewaste.com/node/2472


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We will run out of resources eventually..give it another couple of decades

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"People starving and living in poverty has much more to do with politics/bad governments and greediness then a lack of resources. "

The earlier poster didn't mention "lack of resources", only "overpopulation". And it is true, this planet is overpopulated.

If human beings only needed space to live, and not any other resources (and temperature wasn't a factor), then you could say we are not overpopulated, because you could easily put all humans in Australia, and have plenty of room and space for everyone to live comfortably.

So if you are really technical about it, and consider only the 'space', the planet isn't overpopulated - there is PLENTY of empty space in many countries. The thing is, those places are rather nasty places to live in, and not all people would be able to survive there, and of course food, shelter and water are difficult to arrange there.

Having said all that, you are sort of correct about your statement - except it's quite redundant to say 'bad governments' - as if there are GOOD governments on the planet. Government isn't good or bad, the same way fire isn't good or bad. But the thing about both is that they SUCK at being masters, although they can be very useful as servants.

It's not really the governments anyway - it's the small group of incredibly wealthy, greedy and evil (possibly demonic) people that have esoteric rituals about burning baby effigies every year (research Bohemian Grove and Moloch), belong to secret societies called 'freemasons', 'skulls&crossbones' (the same thing that SS members belonged to - look at the typical Nazi death cult symbol (cockade?) on their caps), own the banks and 'federal reserves' of the world, and most of the 'real wealth', as in land, gold, factories, ships, etc.

The whole military-industrial-complex can hardly be said to be just a normal part of a government. The 'black ops' are not official government projects, and so on.

The REAL problem is the stupidity of the people. Did YOU know that you are not a person, but you HAVE a person? And that it's not YOUR name in your credit card/driver's license (that you don't need, because it's optional), bank cards and official contracts - but your person's name? (That is almost always written with capital letters and so-called "surname" first)

More info about this: http://yourstrawman.com

Also, look for "Meet your Strawman" in youtube - a humorous, 5-minute, grayscale clip that explains the basics of how people have given their consent to being governed by something they really shouldn't have. And so on.

You are also right about there being enough food for all - there really is. Food-making methods, farming techniques and stuff like that has advanced far beyond what was probably even imaginable back in the '70s. Well, maybe 'imaginable' is too strong a word, but you get the point.

There is plenty of food - in fact, there is TOO MUCH of it. Like you have shown, there is also an enormous waste of it, but one thing you forgot to mention: they actually BURN the 'excessive' grain to get a better price for the rest of it - and they also let it rot in silos.

While at the same time, people are starving to death (literally) for the lack of grain.

As you can see, the problem is complex, and it involves everyone, from regular, western people, to corporations, to governments, to the people who control both governments and corporations (although we, the people, should be running the show - we clearly aren't, because we have signed that right away to get privileges from our servants!), it involves the military, it involves conspiracies, hiding of the truth, and everything.

Btw, someone questioned the pollution in the movie, by thinking that if there are no working factories, there can't be pollution. Like, 'where is the pollution coming from'.

Well, pollution isn't something that immediately goes away when you turn off the car/factory/whatever. It lingers. It stays in the air. If you pollute the air (too much), it will remain forever (until it's artificially cleansed or until the atmosphere collapses, the planet explodes or something) in the air. So the factories do not need to be producing MORE pollution every day - it's enough that they ONCE did that, for it to be polluted for the rest of the planet's lifespan (unless cleansed).

Just a sidenote that had nothing to do with the original point - I just wrote it because it has to do with this movie, and because I still just remembered it.

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I'm not sure how the people without clean drinking water in Africa are going to have more if I stop running the tap here in North America. It reminds me of being a kid and my mom telling me to finish my dinner because kids in Africa are starving -- am I supposed to mail them the cooked carrots I don't want to eat?

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Well There's now 7 billion people on the planet. 200 years ago, there was less than 1 billion.

within the next 50 years there'll be atleast 10 billion.

We are over populated, millions of people are in poverty and have no food to eat


A number of nations in the southern hemisphere, especially in Africa, are pumping out well water faster than it can be replenished. This is mining water. The water is used for drinking and irrigation. Within two decades, these nations will start to die of thirst, unless they initiate war with neighbors, to steal their water (thus causing those nations to die of thirst).

Speaking of Africa, the Congo is a warzone now because of a precious mineral mined there that is used to make cell phones and other electroncs. Nigeria, where there is oil, is also a war zone. In 2003, USA invade oil rich Iraq. These wars, and others, are, despite what the governments claim, resource wars. As world population grows, resource wars will worsen and spread. The poorest countries are now the ones being hit hardest, but as populations continue to rise, resource wars will spread to less poor nations, and then finally to the nations now prosperous.

Of course, due to climate change, there will be more famine and starvation(due to crops being destroyed by pests and no water), and more disease as well. It's already bad in a lot of places, and its going to get much much worse.

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The western world isn't overpopulated, because we work too much, and *beep* too little.
The test of the world is overpopulated, because the *beep* too much and work too little..

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We sure are getting there. Millions of people live in poverty and die of hunger and disease every year. It may not be as dramatic as the film but it's defiantly happening. The climate hasn't collapsed as in the film but it's changing. Who knows what the Earth, and Humanity will look like in a few hundred years more.

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Give it time.



Hey there, Johnny Boy, I hope you fry!

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hahahha looks like TC is your typical dumb gringo,go to any *beep* 3rd world country and there'll be lots of people living in extreme poverty with nothing to eat, thanks to the US stealing all of their natural resources.

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This US stealing their resources thing is BS. Most 3'rd world countries are in poverty and hunger because their own leadership hoards resources and food for themselves.

The biggest minority in America is the individual.

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Because most or all of these scientific projections are made from a static point of view with no consideration of changing trends and technologies.

The biggest minority in America is the individual.

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I saw a fantastic lecture on the future of the world's population. The evidence was very compelling that as a country advances, the number of children per woman reduces to just above 2, the population of the world will level off at around 10 billion. The number of children ever present in the world has already almost stabilised.

Another brilliant post Steinberg...

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