The 70's. When you can rape a woman if she doesn't do what you like.
That was a disturbing scene. And to be honest, I don't remember it.
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Actually I believe you'll find the movie is set in the mid to late 1800's, so there's that.
I bet you can watch a movie made in this century, and still find rape scenes. Not so sure why the hard on against the 70's in particular?
The stranger was exacting revenge on the town, and the woman in question was the previous wife or girlfriend of one of the three villains who murdered the sheriff. She was a cold blooded snake and therefore didn't deserve a lot of audience sympathy. The other woman, one of the few good people in the town, is not treated in the same manner at all.
You are clearly not familiar with the Western genre of movies. If you are hoping they are going to conform to your 21st century politically correct standards you are going to be in for disappointment.
...not to mention the fact that she sees the stranger walking down a street that's wide enough to accomodate twenty people walking side be side, but suddenly weavs toward him and intentionally runs into him and then tries to blame the collision on him. A very crude method of saying, "HEY, LOOK AT ME!".
shareBumping into a man makes it okay for him to rape you?
No, chet, intentionally bumping into a man, slapping the cigar from his mouth, insulting him, and then, partway through the sex act in the stable, deciding that you like it and assisting him in getting out of his pants, makes in NOT RAPE.
shareNo, chet, intentionally bumping into a man, slapping the cigar from his mouth, insulting him, and then, partway through the sex act in the stable, deciding that you like it and assisting him in getting out of his pants, makes in NOT RAPE.Exactly! Those were the days! share
No, chet, intentionally bumping into a man, slapping the cigar from his mouth, insulting him, and then, partway through the sex act in the stable, deciding that you like it and assisting him in getting out of his pants, makes in NOT RAPE.
In what reality do you live in that rape becomes not rape halfway through an act of rape?
She resisted, he kept going = rape. Eastwood's character would have violated her whether she "enjoyed it" or not, and that makes him a rapist. This shouldn't be hard to understand.
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Not only that but later on she accuses "The Stranger" of committing forcible rape. But Clint is just bad-ass that way.
shareNo, chet, intentionally bumping into a man, slapping the cigar from his mouth, insulting him, and then, partway through the sex act in the stable, deciding that you like it and assisting him in getting out of his pants, makes in NOT RAPE.
In what reality do you live in that rape becomes not rape halfway through an act of rape?
She resisted, he kept going = rape. Eastwood's character would have violated her whether she "enjoyed it" or not, and that makes him a rapist.
I agree - by all means it was a rape.
However, it was also a woman who went out of her way looking for trouble and merely got what she was looking for. I find it amusing that if a man had confronted him in that same way and the Stranger had shot him dead no one would care at all, but you may never, ever touch a woman no matter what she does or how she behaves.
The Stranger raped a woman, a female. He did not rape a lady, because she wasn't one, not by a longshot. For all we know she could very well have been the town whore and she considered the Stranger a potential customer, but a customer who clearly didn't appreciate her bizarre method of foreplay - so he took her on his terms, not hers. share
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Callie didn't go looking to be raped. No woman goes looking to be raped. I don't care if Callie slept wit a 100 or a thousand men. That does not give the stranger the right to rape her. Rape can never be justified.
I think the stranger was the Devil sent to punish the town for their sins. I don't think he was the sheriff's avenging brother. We are not supposed to like the stranger.
I don't think it was rape at all. Callie was going out of her way, literally, to provoke a reaction out of Clint, and I think she got exactly what she was looking for. As Mordecai noted later, she took her damn sweet time getting revenge on Clint, most likely because she was offended not by the "rape", but by his not coming back for more.
Further, as the ghost of Jim Duncan (spoilers!), Clint knew what to make of her. He was playing her little game.
That said, it was a seriously misogynistic way to write a woman, doing what she can to provoke a man into attacking her, thus feeding the notion that women secretly want it even when they say no. In real life, a woman wouldn't play this crazy game of pissing the man off in hopes of getting "raped"; and in real life, a man who dragged a woman into the stable like that would be a rapist, plain and simple. I can give a fictional ghost sheriff benefit of the doubt that I would not give a real life person.
I can give a fictional ghost sheriff benefit of the doubt that I would not give a real life person.
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It was so disturbing that you don't remember it?
shareI've watched the movie several times but I don't remember that scene. I wonder if its edited out of some TV broadcasts.
shareLook, I don't mean to be 'noxious, but did you ever see the series of scenes that led up to him "having" her in the hay or not?
You say, "That was a disturbing scene. And to be honest, I don't remember it."
Do you mean that you saw it once, way back when and found it disturbing, but in recent viewings it doesn't seem to be there. And now you can't really remember the details except you remember you found it disturbing?
Or are you depending on other's description of the scene and find that description disturbing but don't remember ever actually seeing it?
It doesn't matter either way, but your post just piqued my interest.
It's one of the most laughable scenes in the whole movie. She wants stud Eastwood to give it to her and he obliges, even though he just basically lays on top of her like a corpse without moving while she's in moans of ecstasy. And he's all finished in a few seconds.
He said in the saloon "I'm faster than you'll ever be".He wasn't kidding.
Well, he HAD been out on the trail for a long time.....
shareHe said in the saloon "I'm faster than you'll ever be". He wasn't kidding
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the scene of brutal rape in death wish which I still find far more disturbing and I cant forget it. That movie too was a 70s classic.
shareI hate to be the one to tell you this, but a lot of women were raped in the old west and treated like property. Eastwood as a director wanted people to see the main character as a cold drifter. Eastwood never censors the meanness of the old west from any of his films. He didn't want the audience to see the drifter as a moral super hero. Not only that but in terms of story line, the woman that was raped turned her back on the deputy when he was alive and she double crossed him. All of the worst town's people died.
It's revenge.
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shareThat was a disturbing scene. And to be honest, I don't remember it.How exactly can it disturb you if you don't remember it??? share
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