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This movie annoyed the crap out of me..


First off, let me say that Fatal Attraction is one of my favorite movies of all time. It's been one of my favorites since my dad introduced me to it when I was 8 (far too young to be introduced to it, but that's another store in itself...)

So I rented Play Misty For Me off of Netflix because the premise sounded like something I would like - and I did! However, I had absolutely no idea how Fatal Attraction was based on this movie, which is obviously was. I appreciated that, and was excited to watch it.

But, what the heck?! This movie moves like a turtle stuck in glue...

The reason why Fatal Attraction is 100X better (in my opinion), is that you could really feel how scared Michael Douglas' character was, desperately trying to rid the crazy Glenn Close from his life....he fought and fought ...

In Play Misty For Me, it was like Clint Eastwood was, at most, slightly perturbed that this chick was breaking and entering his home, making a fool of him in public, almost murdering his nanny...
Like, C'MON!!!! Give a little effort here...it was especially unbearable when he wouldn't even tell the cops in his home how crazy she is.

And what's the deal with the other girl? They about have as much chemistry as a snake and a sea otter. At least make that believable.

Anyway, just a rant. Wondering if anyone agrees?


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First off, let me say that Fatal Attraction is one of my favorite movies of all time. It's been one of my favorites since my dad introduced me to it when I was 8 (far too young to be introduced to it, but that's another store in itself...)

So I rented Play Misty For Me off of Netflix because the premise sounded like something I would like - and I did! However, I had absolutely no idea how Fatal Attraction was based on this movie, which is obviously was. I appreciated that, and was excited to watch it.

But, what the heck?! This movie moves like a turtle stuck in glue...

The reason why Fatal Attraction is 100X better (in my opinion), is that you could really feel how scared Michael Douglas' character was, desperately trying to rid the crazy Glenn Close from his life....he fought and fought ...

In Play Misty For Me, it was like Clint Eastwood was, at most, slightly perturbed that this chick was breaking and entering his home, making a fool of him in public, almost murdering his nanny...
Like, C'MON!!!! Give a little effort here...it was especially unbearable when he wouldn't even tell the cops in his home how crazy she is.

And what's the deal with the other girl? They about have as much chemistry as a snake and a sea otter. At least make that believable.

Anyway, just a rant. Wondering if anyone agrees?


While I liked the movie, I do agree with you. However I think it was the time period in which the movie was made. I hate to say it, but in my personal opinion, I think the acting suck in the 70's. I question how some of the women (and guys) in the movie actual got their roles. The other girl was suppose to be Clint's girlfriend, but their relationship is never fully explored. So far all we knew about her was she was the good girl that he will someday married. But your right about the lack of chemistry in the movie. There wasn't any.
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Kades

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There's only one scene in the movie I think drags the pace and that's the love making scene. It goes on too long, even with the First Time song playing. I think Eastwood was milking it. We get it, he's in love with Toby. Don't need a 5 minute sex scene to show it.

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I agree completely. I like the movie, but I was practically yelling at the screen when the cop was questioning him. Some psycho just hacks up his cleaning lady and he's not even cooperating with them in the least. Who behaves that way!? And speaking of which, she breaks into his house, destroys everything in it, almost stabs someone to death and they just release her. So frustrating.




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I agree completely. That was exactly my reaction. It didn't make any sense.

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I had to stop watching about halfway through because it was freaking me out too much and he wasn't doing enough to fight back. I was yelling at the screen almost from the beginning, "Tell her to eff off and leave you alone!" Even after she revealed herself to be a complete psycho pretty early on (when she shows up at his house naked under her coat) he lets her in and has sex with her and lets her spend the night. Are you kidding me? Even the dimmest person could see she was an obsessed lunatic. No way should he ever have let her in again. Granted that probably wouldn't have made any difference to how crazy she ended up, but I wanted to see him fight back and protect himself. Maybe I am just too paranoid but the moment someone disrespected my boundaries the way she did early on they would be DONE. And I would have called the police or even gone down and visited them and explained the situation. Maybe people just weren't as paranoid or aware of stalking in the 1970s. That's all I can think to explain how blase he seemed.

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Maybe I am just too paranoid but the moment someone disrespected my boundaries the way she did early on they would be DONE.


But Dave Garver doesn't live with many "boundaries": he's promiscuous, libertine, and a walking embodiment of the sexual revolution (or at least its darker side), thus diminishing his sensitivity to Evelyn Draper's violations. Plus, he's a detached, emotionally aloof character who seems unaffected on that level and thus doesn't appear to dwell on the matter until he's full entrapped in this web. He seems to think that if he placates Evelyn and engages her sexually one more time, she'll eventually feel appeased and disappear, much as Dave himself would seek sexual satisfaction and then move on. But Evelyn desires emotional and romantic gratification, too, and those desires are rather foreign to Dave Garver. As author Bruce Jay Friedman wrote about Eastwood in 1976, "Not that he can't make just about anything mythic. (Witness the otherworldly dimension he single-handedly got into Play Misty for Me. He was a disc jockey and he still got mythic in there.)"

http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/263509.html

But when a man is that detached, that preoccupied by sex and music and aesthetics and his profession, that disinterested in personal ties, that "mythic," then his emotional awareness will probably suffer.

Also consider that Play Misty for Me constitutes an implicit critique of celebrity, masculine indulgence, and sexual indulgence. If you're a single man of some celebrity or stature who is accustomed to being flattered by women and who is thinking from a sexual-material perspective, then why not sleep with that attractive woman who arrived at your door with nothing on underneath her fur coat? If she desires you that badly, then why not reciprocate and enjoy yourself sexually at the same time? I don't think that those impulses are difficult to understand. Again, Dave Garver probably imagined that by placating her (and indulging himself simultaneously), the problem would naturally dissipate. Instead, he just feeds her hopes for a full-fledged, deeply connected relationship and she becomes obsessed. Romantic transactions are largely about whether two people's interpretations fall on the same page, whether they see eye-to-eye about their interest and what it may mean. When those interpretations are in sync, it can lead to romance, wondrous passion, even marriage, the types of situations that people dream about and that Hollywood has long glorified. But in real life, those interpretations often are not in sync and the result can be one person falling madly in love with another who doesn't really care or who isn't that interested after all. As longtime Time film critic Richard Schickel writes on page 251 of Clint Eastwood: A Biography, "Initially alluring—we are all inclined to believe that our true love is the key that will finally unlock a withdrawn lover’s secret heart—it ultimately maddens even people whose sanity is less delicately poised than hers."

Play Misty for Me perhaps amounted to one of the first films to ponder the emotional coldness and misinterpretation that can readily and realistically (if paradoxically) accompany romantic interest. Society—including classical Hollywood cinema and its conventions—lead people to believe that romantic interest naturally leads to romantic fulfillment, but there's often a disconnection between the two phenomena, largely because interpretations differ and people operate on different levels emotionally. As Dave Garver scolds Evelyn Draper at one point, "You read it that way," in a way that he wasn't reading matters at all.

And I would have called the police or even gone down and visited them and explained the situation.


But for a 6'4" male movie star, or even a regular 6'4" male citizen of any stripe, or any man, visiting the police—especially in the early seventies—because an attractive young woman really wants to keep sleeping with you probably seemed ridiculous, like an affront to one's masculine pride. Indeed, one can easily envision the snickers and "wimp" comments that one would at least imagine and perhaps actually encounter by going to the police, either from the policemen themselves or from certain associates and friends. Consider that when Dave tentatively broaches the problem with his fellow disc jockey, Sweet Al Monte, the man seems to laugh off the issues and offers the glib one-liner, "He who lives by the sword shall die by the sword." And when Eastwood broached this script with Universal in 1970, the studio's brass proved skeptical. As Eastwood told Michael Henry in the January 1985 edition of Positif, "Their second argument was that the situation wouldn't be believable: 'How could a big strong guy like you be threatened physically by a weak young woman?'" On the surface, Clint Eastwood (the movie star or persona) or any 6'4", athletic man (or any man, period) is not supposed to become befuddled by a pretty lean woman who lusts after him. Instinctively or unconsciously, Dave Garver's behavior and lack of responsiveness reflect the masculine expectation, societal expectation, and self-expectation that a man should be able to take care of his personal business and the women in his life on his own.

One of the more ironic and intriguing subtexts of Eastwood's career, a subtext that really emerged in 1971 with the release of The Beguiled (directed by Don Siegel) and Play Misty for Me, has been his exploration of masculine pride and its fallacies. He would further explore that theme in Breezy (1973), which Eastwood directed yet did not star in (William Holden starred instead), and then continued in this vein later in the decade, more subtly in The Outlaw Josey Wales (1976) and more directly and sardonically in The Gauntlet (1977). Then in the early 1980s, these types of probings became more regular in his career. Masculine pride and male egotism can represent a major trap, as revealed by Play Misty for Me.

Maybe people just weren't as paranoid or aware of stalking in the 1970s. That's all I can think to explain how blase he seemed.


And circa 1970 (when the filmmakers shot Play Misty for Me), the idea that a woman would stalk a man to potentially murderous effect would have seemed even more bizarre.

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I just vacationed in Carmel/Monterey so I immediately put my DVD of "Misty" in on return. Yep, many of the landmarks in the movie are still alive and well, including the Sardine Factory (where Garver first meets his stalker, and the Municipal Wharf, where Garver meets with his potential employer and all goes wrong.)

What I find hilarious about this movie is that Garver is working in small market radio, yet drives an expensive sports car and lives in an affluent part of NoCal near the ocean where homes today cost millions, or tens of millions. Uh, small market evening DJ's back then were lucky to bring in 800 a month. Maybe he was a trust baby.

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What I find hilarious about this movie is that Garver is working in small market radio, yet drives an expensive sports car and lives in an affluent part of NoCal near the ocean where homes today cost millions, or tens of millions. Uh, small market evening DJ's back then were lucky to bring in 800 a month. Maybe he was a trust baby.


The market was small, but because of the luxurious area, could the radio station have been lucrative (via high end investors) and thus netted Garver a superior salary than one might have expected for most small town disc jockeys? I don't know, I'm just asking.

And while I understand the point that you're making about the real estate, I'll bet that Garver's home didn't cost millions in those days. Besides, he could have been renting from a landlord.

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Yeah, good point. However, while these homes were not worth millions in 1971, they were worth way more than a Monterey/Carmel DJ would be able to afford. This is what I am challenging, but in the end doesn't really matter to the movie, in fact kinda romantizes the biz, so I'm not too upset!

Oh, and as for high end investors in the radio biz willing to pay high salaries, quite unusual, if not non-existent. Sure, there were some rare exceptions, but normally, no. (I'm a 35 year radio broadcaster, and not rich!)

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Yeah, good point. However, while these homes were not worth millions in 1971, they were worth way more than a Monterey/Carmel DJ would be able to afford. This is what I am challenging, but in the end doesn't really matter to the movie, in fact kinda romantizes the biz, so I'm not too upset!

Oh, and as for high end investors in the radio biz willing to pay high salaries, quite unusual, if not non-existent. Sure, there were some rare exceptions, but normally, no. (I'm a 35 year radio broadcaster, and not rich!)


I appreciate the response; I suppose that we can chalk up Garver's situation to either a very unusual exception or sheer "movieness."

I also suppose that an intriguing research project would be to obtain and peruse regional newspaper records from the era and see if there was any coverage of KRML's disc jockeys and how any of them lived, whether any of them indeed became well-off local celebrities who were especially popular with female fans, and so forth.

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FA was a tighter movie and the buildup of tension is far more effective. This is really too bad because Jessica Walter did an admirable job of playing an obsessed woman. What wrecks it is Eastwood's direction and the editing. There was about 20 minutes that could have been removed.

The bit in FA with her kidnapping the kid and taking her on the roller coaster was terrifying for its time, then of course the bunny stew tops it off. Great stuff. The wife closing the deal with a .38 at the end was nicely done too. The other good part of FA is that Douglas is obviously a scumbag and understands he must redeem himself.

Dave Garver is a piece of crap too but I think Eastwood wants the viewer to believe he was a straight shooter which he was definitely not.

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No.

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Concerning Dave's "expensive sports car", driving a 14 year old Jaguar in 1971 wasn't a sign of wealth. Sure, that car's worth a bundle today, but at the time of the film it was a used car. A special interest used car to be sure, but still a used car.

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The soundtrack was bad seventies porn, so cheesy.

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I thought Dave was unrealistically stupid. I almost stopped watching, but I enjoyed the scenery. I liked the fashions and interior designs, too, not that I'd ever have a creek with stepping stones in my foyer, but it was kind of neat anyway.

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