Where would they have gone with their pot of gold?
I have always wondered about that. It would have been nigh on impossible to smuggle it on any ship
I have always wondered about that. It would have been nigh on impossible to smuggle it on any ship
Me too. I have no idea what they would have done.
shareI thought it was obvious that they would head to Switzerland!
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Switzerland is what I thought, for a couple of years at least and then make their way back to the States.
Yeah but the point is how are they going to get all that gold past the Swizz border to sell for money and then get back into the USA later? If they go back to the USA then they'd be done for desertion.
shareI believe that at that point in the war that part of the Swiss boarder was still defended by the German army. It would just have been a matter of fighting thru the boarder crossing. With all that gold the Swiss would have welcomed them with open arms!
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Good points raised by all. I believe if this happened for real like you said, they will drive those trucks (25 or more) to the border and bribe the Swizz guards and the commander. Once inside Switzerland, they will look for a bank manager, bribe him and he launders the gold and gives them the cash. The whole process will take a few months and they will be back in the States richer than they had left. Switzerland pre and post WW2 was neutral and it is possible that this scenario would happen - after all the Germans drove truck loads of stolen gold, money art work etc across the Swiss Borders unhindered.
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he said it would have taken some 25 2 1/2 ton trucks to load the gold
Sixteen million dollars in gold at a 1944 price of $35 per troy ounce (31.1 grams) should weigh about fourteen Tonnes. Nine shares of that are going to Oddball's and [Karl Otto Alberty]'s tank crews. leaving fouteen shares (if I remember correctly) for Kelly, Crapgame, Big Joe, and the rest. That come to about about eight and a half Tonnes. Three trucks of the size of the one we see them loading should do it.
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I watched the loading scene again. Crapgame and Fisher calculate that they have 8500 bars for a total of $10,500,000 worth of gold "after splitting with Oddball and the Germans". The official price of gold at that time was US $35 per troy ounce, as I said above. That gives a weight of about 9.3 Tonnes. They will need two five-ton trucks or four 2 1/2 ton trucks.
They can't be using standard 400 oz bars, by the way. If they were, they'd have over ten times the weight to carry, but the gold would be worth about US $119 million instead of only $16 million.
Another correction to muy post above, there were twelve men left with Kelly after the two tank crews left.
they're not deserting, they're making a breakthrough into enemy territory all the way to the swiss border! (and beyond, if only to stash the gold in a friendly swiss bank)
general colt will happily pin medals on the lot of them. they return to the states as war heroes selling war bonds (who just happen to be very rich, somehow)
probably sell it in the swiss market for money. after that money, they can get new identity papers and such and get back to the US. maybe kelly and crapgame have some political connections that can "hook them up".
sharejust drive the hunderd or so miles to the swiss border drop of your weapons just before you cross and for the swiss it would all be legal (back then). No bribes no hassels then imigrate to pretty much anything south of the rio grande and you would easy get a new passport.
shareI suspect that with Crapgame's contacts they may have found a way to smuggle the gold back home. Then all they had to do was rejoin the war and hope they survived it so they could be rich when they made it back.
The only other option would to go to Switzerland, but that would have meant the entire platoon being marked down as deserters and never being able go back home.
What about Oddball and his crew. They left their tank in the village and if the Army gets the serial number of the tank, they could trace it back to Oddball's unit and find out why they were still in the rear area six weeks after their commanding officer was killed and not reported to the brass. Oddball and his men would have to become deserters and work to avoid the military police.
shareI think with him, and his crew driving a Tiger dressed in German gear, it's accurate to say he didn't care since such actions would possibly get them blown up if they approached allied areas if not arrested for being out of uniform
shareI recall that earlier in the film, when Crapgame (Don Rickles) first heard about the gold heist plan from Pvt. Kelly, he phoned an acquaintance named Izzy and asked what the price of gold was on the Paris market. From that exchange, I always inferred that the plan was to take the gold back to Paris, fence it via Izzy or some other shady connection that Crapgame had, get a $h!t-load of money, and simply stay in France (or Europe) after the war and live like kings. None of them seemed like they had families or any other meaningful ties waiting for them back in the States, so I had always assumed they would just stay in France or other parts of Europe and just melt into the background somehow.
shareThey could never hide that much money from the army, The only thing they could do was get across the Swiss border with the gold and never go back to America.
shareSome of them had to have girls in the US , I guess they would fly over from US and live with them in Europe ;)
(holy overanalyzing , Batman.....)
Supposedly there's still paintings and valuables hidden somewhere in German/Austrian border , fodder for a sequel perhaps lol ?
Most belonged to Jews so I doubt under law one would be allowed to keep it , there would be a finders fee of course.
I've often wondered that as well. Switzerland would be my bet.
There are some things to remember about them being classed as deserters. First of all, their commander or whoever says near the start of the movie that he was off "for the weekend" and won't necessarily miss them immediately.
Secondly, they've just restarted the war after it was bogged down, opening a new front of attack, penetrating far into German lines. They're more likely to get medals than blasted for deserting.
So my guess is, dump the gold fast in a Swiss bank, run back to the farmhouse where they were resting while the commander left them at the start of the movie, and hope to survive the war.
As an aside, in the James Bond short story "Octopussy" a man does the same thing with a few gold bars. He buries them high on a mountain and goes back for them when he's on leave.
They never would have made it.
shareSwitzerland would be the only sensible option really. I sure wouldn't go back to the Army after getting all that gold. I'd cross the Swiss border somewhere quiet and not at an official crossing point.
With their officer not knowing where they were anyway, he'd assume they were back in the front line. With them disappearing they could quite possibly be classed as KIA it MIA.
They shouldn't get into too much trouble returning to the States after a decade or so under their own names as the passage of time would diminish the crime of being AWOL.
I just rewatched this and was struck by the fact that, after his death, noone mentions the corporal(?) who was killed in the minefield. Would his next of kin get a share of the swag? I mean, he did get halfway through the mission, wouldn't his wife or parents be entitled to something? Was this addressed at all?
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