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I can't stand people my age.


So, I'm watching The Sand Pebbles one day, and I'm totally engrossed by it, and all of a sudden a couple of my friends show up and want to hang out. I basically told them to **** off, I'm watching a movie. Anyway, I go back to my movie, and they sit down and start watching it with me. For the next hour and a half I have to listen to these two guys bitching about how boring this movie is, and how I never like good movies. So one of them goes to the DVD player and tries to put Happy Gilmore in and I once again have to tell them to **** off. They don't. They just sit there, and tell me how much this movie sucks.

Which brings me to my original point. Why is it that other people my age have no attention span when it comes to movies? It's like they need a movie with either no plot, a ton of CGI, or lots and lots of lame, disgusting jokes to hold their attention. To me, a movie can be over three hours long and still manage to entertain. A movie can have a couple of scenes of nothing but dialogue. A movie can pull off a battle scene with realistic amounts of explosions and fire. A movie doesn't need to go over the top with every single detail in order to hold one's attention.

Maybe this is just a passing thing. Maybe once my friends and I get out of high school we'll all be able to appreciate good movies. But I don't think so. I think that our nation's youth has lost all of it's good taste and intelligence. I don't think that there's a way out of it. A couple of months ago Meet the Spartans was the number one movie in America. In my opinion, this is what politicians should be campaigning about. It's a very pressing issue! I want my president to promise me that he or she will solve this ongoing problem! Am I all alone? Who's with me?

Oh, and I didn't mean to put Happy Gilmore down. I thought it was a fun movie.

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I won't deny that there seems to have been a general dumbing down of the United States' younger generations as a result of the sharp decline of public education, which has generally failed to inspire or challenge the youth to do more than become obsessed with pop culture. Trust me, even when I was in high school (now 31 yrs old) I would watch "nerd" shows or historical drama like "Sand Pebbles" alone or with a friend who understood.

Majority of the members of many societies, no matter the time period, have no particular tenacity of intelligence and lack a basic curiosity for other cultures, history, language or science. Your particular age group, no offence, is a lover of short term A.D.D. like pleasures, new genre evolving music, vulgar comedy, action based visceral entertainment, no newsflash there, as most of us older folks have been there.

We all progress and mature in various ways at different times. I've had many a high school friend who was a complete idiot in high school mature to become a great friend in college, life is simply about timing: finding friends, lovers and colleagues who can enhance and reinforce who you are and where you both would like to go down the road. Heed some great advice told above.

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Hear hear.

"I do NOT want your tawdry tales of office lust infecting my newsroom!"

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It's not just the young people. I know several people of my own generation (40s and 50s) who don't like any movie unless it's in color. The audience of today prefers computer generated graphics, impossible car chases, and a lot of loud noises. They need to be wowed by explosions and have blood sprayed across the screen every couple of minutes or they get bored. I don't even bother discussing movies with most people. They just don't get them.

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I know what your talking about, my older brother...im 23 and hes five years older than me..ill let you do the math. Anyways, i was watching this last night and he came in and wanted to change it to the disney channel...THE DISNEY CHANNEL!I literally had to yell at him so that i could see the ending of it and the amazing thing is he only does it when im watching an old movie like frank langella's Dracula (which is my favourite movie) or the Force 10 From Navarone which i also love...my brother literally drives me up the wall and over it!

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Some people on here said that we have Transformers and the 60's had Beach Party films. Yeah, but Frankie Avalon and the Beach Party gang didn't rake in a BILLION dollars either, distributing their cheese. I'm sure they would've been embarrassed had that been the case. Good thing they had films like The Sand Pebbles, The Graduate and Bonnie & Clyde to look at.

But to the OP, hang in there buddy. I was in the same shoes in high school and even now. Although now, I don't make an effort to try and help them see the brilliance of great films. I enjoy them with my brother and dad. Most of the time myself. Not alot of people are willing to gather around and watch a Charlie Chaplin film these days. I go pretty far back. I'm only 22.

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No movie made a billion dollars in those days, so that's a rather stupid argument. As is the whole "kids these days are idiots" (corollary: "I'm superior to them because I like old movies") line of argument, really.

"You are, in your own idiom, a punk - and a second-rate punk at that!"

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Well, not everyone your (most likely "our") age is like that. There's been people like that for years, and some (like you) can obviously appreciate a good movie. Imo some of that often goes away when you get older, some of it stays. Of the movies that I first watched when I was younger, there are some I appreciate more and some I appreciate less.

You're right though, I can't stand the extremely shallow view some have, where only the very latest thing made in their lifetime is worth appreciating. There's centuries of great literature, a century of great film, and yet some people won't touch anything that was made more than five years ago. Pathetic.

But just to reinforce my point once more, it isn't necessarily just an age thing. There are younger people who will appreciate films from any era, and then there are some who only like certain kinds of films. For example, I have a friend who I know could NEVER watch this, but not just because it's an old movie. I showed him the original War of the Worlds movie (a very fun movie), and he liked it a lot. So I guess it's people of all ages today who are "programmed" to only appreciate certain kinds of films... there are some old classics that most will appreciate (some of the top movies on IMDb are good examples of movies that "withstand the test of time" so to speak), there are movies that are more popular today than when they were released. Unfortunately, there are other classics that are largely ignored because they don't fit "modern standards" (I hate that phrase so much).

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Why do people your age always have to make a big deal when they like an older movie. "OO LOOK AT ME I'M 15 AND MY FAVOURITE MOVIE IS REAR WINDOW."

I've seen so many threads where a teenager tries to pander to the older audience by constantly bragging how they are so different from others of the same age and how they are so much better because they don't like CGI. Its annoying.
Nobody is going to give you a medal or attention. Everywhere I go on these boards I look for interesting debates but instead find either "THIS MOVIE SUX" or "I AM 14 AND LOVE BRESSON, NOW WHICH OLD GUY WANTS TO TAKE ME ON A DATE?"

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Yes, yes they can. But that has nothing to do with what I posted so I don't know why you replied to me lol. My point was I hate young teenagers acting like suck ups and almighty because they can sit through an old movie. It kind of implies there is something wrong with old movies to begin with. I fully support teenagers watching old films but don't want to hear how great they are for liking them. I actually EXPECT the snotrags to like them.

CGI does look fake but young people on here diss it all the time to score points with the older crowd who were raised on model sharks in Jaws that actually look more realistic than the crap in Deep Blue Sea.

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Simple, people have swallowed the lie that old is bad and new is always better. Only a few people have enough about them to look around and back to see if it's true or not - you are one of the fortunate ones who has done this and then can appreciate what you find. You should thank your lucky stars your not just another one of the mundanes who can't.

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Your comment reminds me of an incident I experienced about 15 years ago. I was watching "Odd Man Out" (1947) as part of a James Mason retrospective at the Walter Reade theater in New York. This is the film that brought James Mason to the attention of Hollywood back when.

Seated directly in front of me were two young women in their early 20's as engrossed in the film as I was. At the conclusion of the film, the house lights went up. One of these young ladies turned to the other and said, "They don't make movies like that any more." And she was right.

More to the point, though, is that you can't make movies like that anymore, because the audiences aren't there anymore that would ensure a return on the film makers' efforts.

That isn't to say that there weren't crappy films back then. There were many; most people went to the movies once or twice a week, but there was no television back then, so the movie studios ground out mass entertainment. Now television supplies most of the crap--everything except exploding cars, which remains the province of film.

Many old movies are terrific, and so are some new movies. You already know that you can't follow anybody else's taste but your own. I realized the same thing myself when I was about 12 years old. That was 60 years ago. It gets easier as you get older.

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Hey folks,

Sometime in 1964 or 1965 I read the "Sand Pebbles" novel which was not exactly a skinny fast read. I was absolutely captivated by it, and I read it again before the film came out a year or two later. The novel's author made the characters so real for me, and the story lacked nothing as far as I was concerned. I enjoyed McQueen and several other actors who were cast in the film, so I looked forward to seeing how this great story played out on film.

As great as I thought the book was, I also thought the film measured up in every way. The Jake Holman I read on the pages was the same Jake Holman I saw on the screen. I was not watching Steve McQueen; it was Jake Holman I was watching. My brother has a list of his "Top 10 Films" that does sometimes change over time, but I have never been able to come up with ten films to call my "Top 10 Films." I can assure you, however, that if you ask me to start on my "Top 10 Films," then "Sand Pebbles" would certainly be one of them.

The book just might also be one of my "Top 10 Books" if I had such a book list. "Sand Pebbles" is simply a great story whether it is read in print or seen on film.

Best wishes,
Dave Wile

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Hey Dave,

Here we go again, being on the same page. I am a huge McQueen fan, and this has always been my favorite film of his. When it came out in 1967, my buddies and I were so impressed with it that I'll bet we saw it almost a half-dozen times.

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Hey Larry,

I really liked most of McQueen work on TV as well as the big screen, but I do have a problem with his personal lifestyle. Then again, I feel that way about a lot of actors - I like their work but would not care for their company. Some folks will say that McQueen simply was playing McQueen on the screen, but I would disagree with that. I would submit to you that McQueen was most definately Jake Holman in the Sand Pebbles. I would also submit that McQueen was pretty much the character he was playing in all his films as I recall. Especially his performance in the Sand Pebbles, he was my idea of Jake Holman which was based on the written story in the book as well as the screen play. Did I mention that I liked the Sand Pebbles?

Best wishes,
Dave Wile


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