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cant believe this is considered one of the best westerns


it's fucking terrible. terrible acting, directing, special effects, dialogue, story. there are so many old movies that stand the test of time but this isn't it. the only thing good about it is the score. this movie should be considered camp with how goofy tuco is and how ridiculously evil angel eyes is. meanwhile blondie barely has any characterization at all. he's the most bland character ever. he's not even good.

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I hope you are joking/trolling. This movie is simply a masterpiece. Are you deaf? The music alone is timeless, unique and powerful. This is an epic, set admidst the Civil War. Perhaps in time you will appreciate the quirky and fun moments.
Most westerns you have clean and sanitized sets. Here everything is gritty, grimy and dirty.

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am i deaf? no but you are obviously blind. i literally said the best thing about the movie was the score.

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well not blind yet. I saw your headline and that was enough to again remind you the movie is a masterpiece. go back and watch the wonderful camera work and the epic shots.

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I would go as far to say that starting with Tuco searching for the grave through to the end of the film is, in my opinion, some of the best moments in cinematic history.

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I know one thing, Angel Eyes is one of the lamest villains of all time.

What does he do throughout the entire film? Kills a family man who was probably corrupt anyway, kills his son but purely in self defence, kills his boss but he was a scumbag anyway, and slaps a woman about a bit. That's literally his evil deeds.

Contrast that with Indio in For A Few Dollars More or Frank in Once Upon A Time In the West who killed kids and babies for fun.

The only reason you remember Angel Eyes is because Lee Van Cleef had such a unique face. He's possibly the weakest villain in all of Sergio Leone's films.

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Time for you bed son.

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"he's not even good"

Good, in this context, is meant to be in contrast with those he's being compared to.

His compassionate moments stand out all the more because the other two are that much worse.

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Well, It's NOT an award winner I'll give ya that
Eli Wallach was great,
Clint was improving his style, He acted like this in All his westerns
Lee Van was alright, played a good Bad guy, He was good enough here IT resurrected his career

It was a Spaghetti Western They weren't supposed to win awards, they were supposed to make MONEY which it did

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compare this 3rd in a series with a Quiet Place Day one or Deadpool vs Wolverine. Will you be talking about these 50 years later?

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Well, --- WE are talking about a movie well past its beginning in 1969

BUT it cannot be compared to science-fiction or Comic book movies which are forgettable 5 years after their premier

Personally I do not watch comic book movies They are merely a sign that there are no decent writers in Hollywood

A good /great science fiction can be memorable as good westerns and dramas, or horror

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Eli Wallach was a stand out in this, the villain is memorable, and the hero, villain and anti hero all had amazing chemistry. Also why is camp bad? Some gen z folks think even sincerity or anything bombasic is camp or corny, and anything cynical and dull blue or grey is realism.

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You see, There's two kinds of people in the world. Those who dig The good, The bad and the ugly. And those who don't. You dig!

I still like it. The score is amazing and good without the movie.

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