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Zulu is a horrible, racist film


It glamourises the mass slaughter of black people with only spears. The evil British invaded the black man's homeland and then they try to take the moral high ground over the Zulus defending their territory.

This is a nasty racist film, when you see racist propaganda like this it's no wonder half the world hates the British.

I'm British and if I wasn't British frankly after watching this I would hate the British too.

We live in more enlightened times now, but films like this are a sad reminder of what this country was once like. I hate how some people refer to this as "Best of British". I hope they're not suggesting slaughtering natives is "Best of British".

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I always wonder if the hand-wringers are Creationists, or Evolutionists, and if Evolutionist, why bother with the hand-wringing?




My ignore list is much too long for a sig line.

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Zulu is a great film! Possibly my favourite war film of all-time.I really couldn't give a stuff whether anyone thinks it's racist or not, it's great entertainment.Plus the British ruling the world is history, it's over and done with.If you don't like the film or its subject matter, don't watch it.

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"...If you don't like the film or its subject matter, don't watch it..."

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Having read some of your other posts here, you seem to know very little of British history. This causes me to speculate that perhaps you are not entirely with the truth about yourself. No matter, it is your privlige to hate this film

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I've been to England recently, didn't see one English person lol, in fact I've seen more English people outside than actually in England. For such proud people, they don't like living on that island hahahah.

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I've been to England recently, didn't see one English person lol,


Wow, none of the customs and immigration officers were English either?

I.......er, don't believe you.

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Most of them aren't actually. South Asians and Africans seem to have a monopoly at the Border Agency.

In fact, as far as I'm aware you don't even have to be British to work for the Border Agency. You can be a citizen of another European country or a Commonwealth citizen.

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When I flew back to Heathrow from Texas the other week the immigration officers were all English that I encountered. I never saw any South Asians and Africans at Heathrow's immigration.

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Well, it may surprise you that this movie was banned in Apartheid South Africa for your information. And in the USA when it was shown, many African Americans were on the side of the Zulus and shouting "hoooray" for them in the movie houses. Curious, isn't it?

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Well, it may surprise you that this movie was banned in Apartheid South Africa for your information.


Because it showed the Zulus in a noble and admirable light.

And in the USA when it was shown, many African Americans were on the side of the Zulus and shouting "hoooray" for them in the movie houses. Curious, isn't it?


No it's not curious. Many blacks will automatically side with fellow blacks, moreso than white people side with whites. Whites don't go around calling total stranger fellow whites 'brother'. Many blacks are more interested in siding with their own race even if they are in the wrong. They like their 'brothers'.

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Whites don't go around calling total stranger fellow whites 'brother'


No, they call them dude.

"Do you know what lies at the bottom of the mainstream? Mediocrity!"

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I'm white and I have never called anybody "Dude".

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I've never encountered blacks calling each other "brother" either. This isn't the '70s any more.

"Do you know what lies at the bottom of the mainstream? Mediocrity!"

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Well I have heard the younger ones call each other 'Nig*a' quite frequently...I swear their entire dialogue has been cribbed from 'Pulp Fiction'.

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That really doesn't bother me any more than whites who proudly describe themselves as rednecks. I've known quite of a few of those.

"Do you know what lies at the bottom of the mainstream? Mediocrity!"

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Eh, I'm southeastern European & Armenian--My peeps may have aspirations but basically we're barbarian from the Balkans...the mindset makes life much easier to understand.

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Wow you've known whites proudly calling themselves rednecks but never heard a black man calling another black man a brother.

I guess you mix in different circles.

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I'm originally from a part of America where it's fashionable to stick giant Confederate flag decals on one's car. That may be part of the reason.

"Do you know what lies at the bottom of the mainstream? Mediocrity!"

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I'm originally from a part of America where it's fashionable to stick giant Confederate flag decals on one's car.


Cool. I love that flag. I enjoyed seeing that flag displayed loud and proud during my recent trip to Texas, Arkansas and Louisiana.

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Now I understand.

"Do you know what lies at the bottom of the mainstream? Mediocrity!"

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Now you understand what? That the Confederate flag has no more blood on it than the Stars and Stripes? Or are you another one of those hypocritical revisionist who don't know their own history?

Tell me, what is wrong with flying the Confederate Flag? Go on. I'm all ears.

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I'm more curious why you "love it." Not that you don't have a problem with it or think people should be able to fly it. You love it.

"Do you know what lies at the bottom of the mainstream? Mediocrity!"

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I'm more curious why you "love it." Not that you don't have a problem with it or think people should be able to fly it. You love it.


I love it coz it's a cool design (like the Union Flag and the Star and Stripes are) and when people fly it then it shows they are proud to be 'southern' and won't let the PC numpties grind 'em down and so they don't give 2 hoots.

When I see the flag in the south I smile and think "great". Love that flag. Love the Union Flag and the Stars and Stripes too. In contrast I don't like the English St George's Cross and I'm English.I think the St George's cross is dull and tepid. That flag is BORING looking.

If you are from the south, why don't you love the flag? What's wrong with it??

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I may have misinterpreted your meaning then. If so I sincerely apologize.

I'll admit my bias, that I'm a Northerner and my ancestors fought for the Union. Though Western Pennsylvania is certainly as "redneck" as anywhere in the South. Either way, I find it difficult to extend affection to a secessionist movement explicitly devoted to white supremacy, to the point of explicitly protecting slavery in their Constitution (something notably missing in the US Constitution).

And no, I do not think Lincoln and the Union were saints by any means. But you'd have to do a hell of a lot to convince me they were morally worse than the Confederacy.

"Do you know what lies at the bottom of the mainstream? Mediocrity!"

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I have forgotten much of this specific period (American Civil War) of history from school, but still ponder why Britain did so much to abolish the slave trade (Wilberforce, etc)yet supported the Southern Confederacy over the Union.

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Possibly because the Lancashire cotton mills needed southern cotton to operate. If I remember rightly the Union blockade that prevented the Confederacy exporting cotton was responsible for a slump in Lancashire that caused great hardship. There was grass growing in the streets of Bolton!

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Thanks, that makes sense.
Perhaps the UK's support for the Confederates way back then has left the possible legacy of (I write very generally)Americans in the South being the most pro-British?

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I may have misinterpreted your meaning then. If so I sincerely apologize.


No worries.

I'll admit my bias, that I'm a Northerner and my ancestors fought for the Union. Though Western Pennsylvania is certainly as "redneck" as anywhere in the South. Either way, I find it difficult to extend affection to a secessionist movement explicitly devoted to white supremacy, to the point of explicitly protecting slavery in their Constitution (something notably missing in the US Constitution).


But the Southern flag also means just 'southern' to a lot of people who aren't white supremacists. It doesn't necessarily mean a Klu Klux Klan mindset. My best friend is from the south, loves the flag and isn't racist.

In a way I don't see the south's succession much different to the Colonial's succession from the British in the 1770s. Part of the reason for the Colonial's succession was to be able to take over and conquer/expand into Indian territory west of the Appalachians, which the British blocked them from doing and its not as if the Founding Father's ideology was equal rights for all including blacks and Indians because they didn't get that when then British were gone.

And no, I do not think Lincoln and the Union were saints by any means. But you'd have to do a hell of a lot to convince me they were morally worse than the Confederacy.


I wouldn't say morally worse but the Stars and Stripes was the baton for American westward expansion to the Pacific, taking over Indian lands etc. And let's be fair, the Stars and Stripes ideology hasn't always been against slavery or against taking over other people's lands and subjugating people. There won't be many flags in the world where you can say it's symbolism is completely innocent. The British Union flag isn't. But at the same I don't look at the Stars and Stripes and think "oh dear, that's bad symbolism" in the slightest, even though every star represents 'acquired' territories . I love it coz its a great looking flag that means a lot to a lot of people. Not one of these nondescript wishy washy flags.

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And I can understand. Some divisions, though.

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Oh shut up you moron.

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WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! Just another PC Nazi.

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You are so soft. In that very same film, the Africans you love so much practice cannibalism by cooking a man alive.

They are "peaceful natives" who practice cannibalism, torture and barbarism so horrific you cannot even imagine.

The men were indeed "The Best of the British". They beat a superior force and wiped them out. This is a great film and you are one of those soft liberal quislings. It is an honest and courageous film. If this movie were remade today, it would win an Oscar.

Sadly, in this "politically correct" climate, no filmmaker today would have the balls to make a movie like this, and tell the story honestly. No, they'd make the Zulu's good guys and the British would be the villains.

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

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