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Anyone find the animal abuse element upsetting?


I'm watching near to the end now and I'm find it terribly upsetting. I'm a vegeterian and I can't bear it when I see an animal getting hurt or in distress. TheI think I want to cry. Anyone feel the same?

EDIT: Just watched the ending. I cried a lot. Not only because of the horses but it was so beautiful in a way too (I'm just finding it hard to look over the abuse thing). Also, did they end up together or not?

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....near the end of the film after he releases the horses, Clark Gable's character says " I'll just have to find another way to be free, that's all"
....so we can assume his gives up cowboy work to find something else.

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I was very uncomfortable in the scenes with the horses. I don't eat animals, either. I quit over thirty years ago.

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I eat animals and found the scenes to be very comfortable.

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I love animals so much. I can't stand them being mistreated.

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The ASPCA has an Animal Welfare Officer on every movie set that uses animals of any kind. All scenes involving animals must be approved as non-harmful by that officer. It just LOOKS real because it's a MOVIE.

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"The ASPCA has an Animal Welfare Officer on every movie set that uses animals of any kind. All scenes involving animals must be approved as non-harmful by that officer. It just LOOKS real because it's a MOVIE."

Sadly, this hasn't always been true. It wasn't required to have Humane Association reps on sets until 1980, after the injury & euthanization of a horse on the set of Heaven's Gate (1979).

In the 60's (and prior) they could pretty much do what they wanted and animals were undoubtably injured. Watch some older Westerns and you'll see many instances of trip wires being used on horses. That had to hurt a great deal.

There is a reason that Animal Welfare officials have to be on sets today - unfortunately it's because for decades prior to 1980, animals were routinely abused on movie sets.

Sometimes it looked real because it was.

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There's documentary on YouTube where Eli Wallach and others discuss the animals. They said that the ASPCA monitored the whole thing -- telling them when to stop and use a different horse. He also explained how they made the horses look alike. It was also mentioned that some of these horses where probably on their way to the "wagon train" as well, as they were sick or old.

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I seriously doubt they had anyone looking out after animals in 1961. They used to run horses at full speed into trip wires in the westerns to simulate them being shot.

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I saw this movie on PBS last night, for the first time. I've heard about its good reviews as a young teen in the 60's but have never seen it. I have always loved MM, liked MC, not so much CG but certainly enjoyed many of EW's characters. I enjoy watching movies but when I sense animals getting hurt in a scene, I cut away. I managed to get through the rodeo scenes but I watched only as far as the horses running in that aerial shot. Watching them, especially that little colt running scared, was enough for me. Over the years, I have since developed respect for other living things and it upsets me very much, when I see them hurt or in distress. I am not a vegetarian but I do shed tears for them... and I am a grown man.

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I was very uncomfortable as well when I watched the mustang round-up. I nearly cried, but I just kept thinking that it's just a movie and that helped. It was very disturbing, but I also think that the director made it that way for a reason. It added so much to the movie that when Monroe shouts "You're 3 dead men!" it really resonates in a way that wouldn't have been as powerful had the scene been more tame. It's a tough scene to watch and it broke my heart to watch it (especially, as n6zip pointed out, the little colt), but it is also very powerful and I can't help but recognize and respect the beautiful filmaking.

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It's a tense, draining scene that makes excellent use of montage and mise-en-scene. Monroe's anguished, enraged breakdown crystallizes the moment.

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What does your being a vegetarian have to do with it? Not many people eat horses.

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I thought someone may ask that. I was merely reinforcing the fact that I am a total animal lover and am really sensitive so any type of animal abuse. IMO, you can't be a "true" animal lover if you eat animals.

Also, you may be suprised to know that many people eat horses, perhaps not on purpose, but they grind up anything and put it into sausages, pies etc - including horses. Meat pies contain blood vessels and other disgusting things (about 30% actual meat). So you never know what you are eating.


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I don't agree. Many animals are overpopulated and would be more so if people did not eat them. Then you would have a bunch of famished, diseased animals wandering around. It is for this reason that hunting, as loathesome as it may seem, is necessary as well. I don't personally hunt, but in some parts of the world deer populations are out of control. In my town (Richmond, Virginia) we see deer around all the time and many of them are absolutely emaciated and often resort to eating bushes and things in people's yards or even eating out of people's trashcans, because there is not enough food to go around. Although I would not personally want to shoot a deer, I would prefer for some of them to be shot so that fewer of them have to slowly starve to death.

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A lot of animals are bred for consumption and that is doing much more harm than good to the environment. As for deer - which I know little about as we don't get them here - I think there should be other ways other than death ... perhaps relocation or neutering them so they can't reproduce. I can understand this would take a long time but I hate to think of any animal being shot. Then again, it would be better than starving to death. Either way they certainly don't deserve to die. I see where you are coming from.

Also - and you probably know this - many animals are now considered endangered species because of humans. Many animals are used as Asian (I'm sure other countries use rare animals as special dishes) delicacies etc which just disgusts me.

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You make valid points and I don't disagree with you entirely (I find it objectionable to eat a lot of the foods considered "delicacies," such as tiger and so on), but something to consider about the animals that are bred for consumption: If we stopped breeding cows, pigs, chickens, etc., for human consumption, many, many people (farmers, people who work in meat processing plants, etc.) would lose their livelihoods. It's a complicated issue.

I definitely agree that humans have had an adverse impact on a lot of species, especially in the last 100-150 years. The only point I would disagree on is that it is our consumption of animals that is the main reason for so many species' being endangered or even extinct. The destruction of habitats, fur trade and outright extermination of certain species (certain species such as coyotes and wolves were targeted because they were purported to feed on livestock; it's only been in the past several years that populations of these and other persecuted animals have been on an upswing) have been far more devastating, I would say.

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I can see where you're coming from. However, I can't help feeling you're missing the point just a little. Those scenes are meant to be disturbing for sure, but the object wasn't to be offensive to the vegetarian's eye. This film is not about animals' rights. It's a more subtle take on human nature and draws a very powerful image using wild horses.

I would recommend you read the play by Arthur Miller and try to remember it's not about our differing tastes in diet or the moral questions regarding animals' rights. It's enough to make plenty of people cry, but perhaps not for the reasons you think...


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I did not know "The Misfits" was a play first. I knew it was originally a short story, where there was no girl.

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It's brilliant, powerful stuff from Arthur Miller. I believe he wrote it for Marilyn, who was his wife at the time - and yes, the character that Marilyn later played is at the heart of this story.

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I think you misunderstood me. I never thought this movie was about animal rights or morals etc but I simply found those scenes exceedingly disturbing and draining to watch.

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Don't worry, I did appreciate it affected you in that way; same here. Sometimes though, the way we feel about those "issues" can distract us from the real points. Through our tears we can only see the more obvious trauma. I hope you get to read the book, you'll read it in no time.

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Interesting tidbit: In 1993, The Misfits won the Genesis Award for classic film. This award "pays tribute to the major news and entertainment media for producing outstanding works in television, film, print and the arts which raise public understanding of animal issues." Though the film's main focus was certainly on the internal conflicts of the film's human protagonists, I don't think there can be any doubt about the fact that the plight of these wild horses were an important secondary point of emphasis, reflected in the bestowal of this award.

And as to your original point, yes, I find the images of Gable wrestling with that stallion disturbing--on more than one level. Those scenes, including Monroe's heart-rending accusatory cries in the distance, always leaves me shaken, AND with tears in my eyes--as does the joyous scene where Monroe sets the horses free. The way that is shown, and Gable's reaction to it, leaves no doubt about the film makers' ultimate position on the issue of the treatment of these horses.

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