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Favorite scenes in 'Picnic'?


I was just wondering what are some of the favorite scenes of fans of this movie? My absolute favorite is Roz Russell's scene on the porch "Marry me, Howard". I think it is played so beautifully with such desperate hope and longing. The end is so poignant, when Howard leaves and Rosemary leans against the porch post and watches him go and then she just slumps her shoulders in despair. I also like when William Holden first sees Kim Novak in the boat on the lake after she is crowned queen and he salutes her and she salutes back. Another favorite is the dance sequence, especially when Kim Novak first comes on the scene and dances over to William Holden. What are some of your favorites?

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I had heard about this film over the years and finally had the chance to see it on Turner Classic Movies. William Holden (Hal) was HOT and Cliff Robertson (Alan) running a close second!! When Hal describes a recent risque adventure to Alan soon after they meet...remember, he says he was picked up by a car full of dames and they took him to a motel? We understand immediately this is a man who is far more worldly than his wealthy and sexually repressed friend Alan. Additionally, not one word of profanity is used to describe his adventure.
Much is left to the viewer's imagination, which is always more fun. When Kim Novak (Madge) pulls away from her mother near the end of the film it is overtly symbolic on so many levels. Not only is she preparing to leave the nest, she also is rejecting all the hopes and dreams her mother projected upon her. She does not want to marry Alan and have a life where she will have charge accounts at her fingertips. The scene when Hal and Madge dance alone together with the tune "Moonglow" playing softly is truly magical. It is obvious Alan is more stable and reliable. However, as most women know, the dangerous bad boys are so much fun. I imagine after the flame between Hal and Madge has ignited, burned white hot and then extinguished, Hal will return to his origional course as a drifter. Madge will return home sadder but wiser. Eventually she could marry Alan, but will never stop thinking about Hal.

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Loved your "take" on this movie, a favorite of mine. I so agree with everything you said, and the word you used for the dance scene, "magical" is quite appropriate. I sometimes find these old movies better than some of today's films because they do indeed leave so much to the viewer's imagination. I have often thought the dance scene was one of the more sensual dance scenes I've come across, because it is played with such subtlety. The moves are not sexually overt, but just smooth and romantic. I think you are right, although you would hope that Hal will change for the better because of Madge,(as he states at the end when he talks of "claiming what is his")the sad truth may be that even though Madge may be the "best thing that ever happened to him", no one can "rescue" Hal but himself.

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I find myself holding my breath from the time Madge descends the steps clapping in time to the music, until their dance ends. They move so slowly and tenderly together, one just knows they'll "continue the motion" later. The music is so sensual and perfect for this scene. I love the way Madge's gown floats and the direct eye to eye contact they maintain. Would that real life were so flawless!

... I admire a person that's willing to do whatever is necessary.

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Wow! Your post is worded so elegantly, much like this scene. Yes, you are right, "would that real life were so flawless"!

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Yes, the dance is wonderful, but the scene that always sticks in my mind is that terrific single shot of that beautiful sunset at the end of the day. Without a word spoken, it evokes the last days of all our childhood summers.

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I remember the sunset, too. Is that part of the scene where Rosalind Russell says "it's like the sky is on fire" and something about the "day not wanting to end, like it is putting up a fight" or something along those lines? That sunset is beautiful. I love your image of "last days of all our childhood summers."

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That's interesting that you single that out. It's actually a storm sky. Josh Logan said that they were working hard to capture that sunset but had noticed that the wind was picking up. They kept ignoring shouts until someone was sent to inform them that a tornado was on the way!

It's too late tonight, but later I shall find that book and type Logan's description, as I might not have it quite right.

It certainly is an awe-inspiring image.

~~MystMoonstruck~~

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I find myself holding my breath from the time Madge descends the steps clapping in time to the music, until their dance ends. They move so slowly and tenderly together, one just knows they'll "continue the motion" later. The music is so sensual and perfect for this scene. I love the way Madge's gown floats and the direct eye to eye contact they maintain.


Does it for me. Sex bomb ready to go off!

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I liked your statement, except I like to think Hal will stick with Madge unlike Flo's experience with Madge's father .... I think Hal has sown his oats and has suffered enough humiliation and shame now. He is ready to settle down. What I find poignant about the film is his vulnerability. It shows in his attachment to his father's boots -- it's all he has of his past and of his wretched family, and when he shows up at Howard's for refuge from the cops, the first thing he does is clean his boots even though he's soaked to the bone himself. It says a lot about how he wants to be. Respectable. Madge is his savior, his first break in life. He has won a prize; a victory; he has learned the value of it and will not squander it. And too they can talk honestly and expose their true thoughts to one another. There's no replacement for that kind of trust and intimacy. Hal needs to belong, and he will find belonging with Madge.

I think Mrs Potts is the most wonderful character. She guides everyone to rightness and love. I love it at the end when she admits to Flo she liked him. "Suddenly There was a man in the house. And it seemed good."

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I actually don't think love will conquer the problems Hal and Madge will have. I think she will eventually return to Kansas. For me, the point is, she left the rules and traditions and went after something she wanted. She will return perhaps sadder but wiser, but also more worldly and with a good knowledge of herself.

I think the one who will surprise everyone is Millie. First of all, with Madge not around, she may come into her own. Also, once she gets to college and goes to the big city, things will change for her.

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Actually, I don't believe that Madge would ever return to Kansas. If Hal dumps her (as he probably will), she will wander about, alone and forlorn, and will probably turn to prostitution in order to survive.
I don't believe those Bible-thumping hypocrites from Madge's home town would ever forgive her for violating their sanctimony by running off with Hal in the first place.

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You may be right, and if she had no family, I might agree. But she will have a sister living out of town, and if she feels she can't go back, she might go to her. They certainly will be in touch - after all, it's her sister who told her to go for it.

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Well, Millie is only about 13 in the story, so it will be a few years until she can leave the nest--unless she does something foolish and runs off with a man, too. But I doubt that, because Millie has a good head on her shoulders. Still, with her own life just beginning, I doubt if she would want to be burdened with the problems of her older sister.

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Well, speaking as a sister, want to or not, I wouldn't let my sister turn to prostitution in order to survive. And I don't think she will be dumped - I think she'll do the dumping because he will become restless and start taking off, and she'll finally realize he's not going to change. The point is, her family is going to keep in touch with her and if she's in trouble, they will help her.

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I recently bought the DVD and watched it last night. Where were the Bible thumping hypocrites you mentioned? Did you even see the movie??? There was no thumpers in "Picnic."

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Couldn't be a more perfect description of this wonderful film. Thank you.

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Replying 4 1/2 years after your original post:) One of the most romantic movies. I think *every* scene is my most fave, especially 'the dance.' But I don't agree with your idea of what happens to them. Her bus and his train will eventually meet. They will get together and make a go of it! One of the few movies (unlike Bridges of Madison County) where the heroine actually throws caution to the wind and goes for it! Wish I had.

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"The Dance" is my favorite. Director Logan creates the sexiest dance on film rivaled only by Rita Hayworth in 'Salome'. Holden and Novak are arguably the big screen's two most attractive people acting out a fantasy we might all dream about -- if not have nearly experienced ourselves.

In second place is the closing scene of an aerial shot of the two lovers' conveyances, train and bus, independently leaving town but hopefully converging in another time.

This story is far too powerful and believable to discredit the movie if the acting is not as perfect as it could be.

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I also think it is one of the sexiest dances on film. That dance becomes just the two of them in their own little world, fantasizing about being together, nothing else existing but that moment and what that moment may lead up to for both of them. I think it works on so many levels, including drawing the moviegoer into their fantasy and leaving things up to our own imaginations (something that a lot of today's movies fail to do when filming love scenes). Had not thought of the ending scene in the way you mentioned, but you are right about that visual. This movie indeed does have many powerful scenes and yes, the acting is superb!

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Was Kim Novak ever more alluring than in this film? My God...not only was she pretty, beautiful and sexy...but her vulnerablity came through dramatically. She had just the teensiest bit of extra body fat in this movie...which made her just that much more desireable. She brought out all my male protective instincts. I wanted to scoop her up, love her and protect her for the rest of our lives. She looked like she had been sewn into her dress for the dance sequence on the boat dock. I loved it.

LionHearted

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The dance scene - hands down winner. Sexy romantic - two lonely people find each other and at that moment realize they are in love. Magic!

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I absolutely love the dance scene of course with that serene melody of "Moonglow" floating in the background, like a boat drifting down the river next to them. The moment seems to engulf them and the sensual tension between them is so subtle, but yet so prevalent, it draws you right into the moment with them. I love the way Hal caresses Madges hand and shifts it from held in air to gently draped close to his heart. Like he is allowing her to feel his heartbeat, just so she can know how happy he is to be alive in that moment. Their gaze is unbreakable, their movements with so much grace, as Ms. Potts notes later on.

I also love the passion and the metaphoric allusion to intimacy in the scene that follows Madge taking off with Hal. When she interrupts his rant by cupping his face and kissing him, its the one moment the viewer can say 'Thank you!' She did exactly what we were thinking!!

I also enjoy how when she says she has to leave and he embraces her, standing partially over her and asks "Do We?" at the same exact time the oncoming train roars beside them. I believe this to be a Hollywood metaphor of the time for the couple's consumation of their attraction, without having to show an explicit love scene. It certainly symbolizes in your mind the climax of the act of love in the imagery and sound perception. Marvelous! After this array of scenes, who wouldn't want Madge to run away with him? Foolish or not, I was proud of her, and also glad the ending satisfied the events that built up to it. A favorite without a doubt.

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The dance scene - a clip of it is on You Tube and I go there to watch it constantly.
William Holden at the beginning with no shirt on!
The scene where the teacher forces Hal to dance with her and rips his shirt halfway off (are you noticing a trend here?). Also her speech to Hal, where she unknowingly says everything to him that he's already thinking about himself. I felt bad for him.

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One scene that I find very amusing is the scene near the beginning of the film with William Holden and Cliff Robertson riding together in a car. Holden is raving about how much he admired Robertson for being such a great student who attended lectures.

Then Holden declares that Robertson "TOOK NOTES!" as if that was such a magical and wondrous thing. I'm not sure if the scene is intended to be comical, but I laugh every time I see such a big deal being made out of such a commonplace and ordinary endeavor such as taking notes.

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My choice is a selfish one. My favorite is the picnic scene where a dozen or so boys dive into a haystack after silver dollars to simulate another picnic activity. Its my favorite because I was an extra in that Halstead, Kansas scene as a 9 year old boy. I think I got a $14 check from Columbia Pictures... beginning and end of my film career.

My dad worked at the grain elevator in Hutchinson Kansas where the Bill Holden talked about wanting to get into the grain business.

I still prize Rosiland Russell's autograph, she was very approachable and friendly.

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jimbaze, I think that is absoutely so cool and what a memory to have from your childhood!!! Roz Russell is my favorite actress so I am so pleased to hear she was "very approachable and friendly" - that is just how I imagine her to have been. It must have been such a thrill as a kid to take part in a movie. Were the summers in the town as wonderfully lazy and serene as I imagine them to have been?

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Jimbaze,
How very, very cool!
Thanks for sharing - what a neat memory for you.

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That's very cool! My grandmother (who lived in Burrton at the time) was also an extra, in a group of kids going after a balloon.

She & my grandpa took me by the park in Halstead where the 'picnic' scenes were filmed, oh, probably 10 years ago.

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My favorite scene is the dance sequence on the boating dock. It is wordless but says more than all the other dialoque in the movie. Madge descends the steps, rhythmically slapping her hands to the sultry "Moonglow" theme, while a startled Hal holds his breath, his heart in his throat. They gently merge together, holding hands at first and gradually absorb in each other's arms. As they move closer, the "Picnic" theme merges with "Moonglow" and there's no longer any doubt about their love for each other. A truly magical movie moment. I am transfixed every time I see it.

LionHearted.

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cnalbrecht, that is one of my favorite also. Your vivid description of the scene makes me want to go watch the movie and experience that "magical movie moment" (as you so appropriately named that scene)all over again!

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<<Madge descends the steps, rhythmically slapping her hands to the sultry "Moonglow" theme, while a startled Hal holds his breath, his heart in his throat. They gently merge together, holding hands at first and gradually absorb in each other's arms. As they move closer, the "Picnic" theme merges with "Moonglow" and there's no longer any doubt about their love for each other. A truly magical movie moment.>>

Oh, absolutely. I just watched Picnic again tonight, and that scene is perfect.




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<<Madge descends the steps, rhythmically slapping her hands to the sultry "Moonglow" theme, while a startled Hal holds his breath, his heart in his throat. They gently merge together, holding hands at first and gradually absorb in each other's arms. As they move closer, the "Picnic" theme merges with "Moonglow" and there's no longer any doubt about their love for each other. A truly magical movie moment.>>

A very sexually charge scene. An example of a beautiful girl & virile man making love with just eye contact & seductive music.

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Whoa, that was good. I need a cold shower!

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The dance is also my favorite, however, I noticed that Madge adjusts her shoe subtly at one point. That's the only oddity in this sexually charged scene.

My other favorite is the montage of the picnic activities. It's so wholesome I'd love to attend an event like that.

Why ain't you at the garden party you heathen?

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Need I mention it was the sultry slow dancing of these two. No special effects or computer animation needed here! Every time I play it back I become entranced and wish I were slow dancing like these two. Although the film was made 5 years before I was born I always recall mom going on about how much she always loved Bill Holden and how they don't have men like that any more in the movies. She was right. Today's wimps could never compare. This film proves it. "Classic" if ever there was.

True Hollywood!


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The scene in which Kim Novak slowly dances down the steps into William Holden's arms, and their amazing dance sequence, is so sensual. Also, the film captures the spirit of a Middle American country fair like nothing else....

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