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what country dose the princess rule over?????


okay i don't know if any one realizes it but the movie never said what country that audrey hepburn's character rule over.if anyone knows tell me

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"A country which shall not be named" (however it's phrased by the newspaper editor).

I think it's supposed to be somewhere in Eastern Europe, but beyond that, we don't have any specifics.

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No doubt if they had named the country...someone would be on here complaining that the costumes were inaccurate...or asking why were they all speaking unaccented English?, or why does no-one mention the countries destroyed by its terrible imperial past? or wrist-watches were never allowed in that country until 1986...etc etc etc


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Not to be rude, but I think that was the point, that we weren't supposed to know where Ann was from.

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Grand Fenwick perhaps.

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LOL at Grand Fenwick :D

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And I thing the reason for not revealing the country was because it had nothing to do with the story. As the story progressed it was obvious being a princess and that sort of life had more to do with the story then what country she was from.

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I'm not sure why you think it was in Eastern Europe, but how many Eastern European countries had monarchies in 1953? I can think of only one, Greece, though it wasn't often counted as Eastern Europe because its politics didn't fit.

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I thought it was probably a small country like Monaco or Luxembourg, where the monarch is largely a figurehead -- more into public relations than actually running the country, much like the royal family in England. But I assume from her "good will tour" that the royal family values its public image, and depends on Anya's charm and gentility to win over the pubic and improve the country's image to the rest of the world.

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I thought it was probably a small country like Monaco or Luxembourg, where the monarch is largely a figurehead -- more into public relations than actually running the country, much like the royal family in England.

The Prince of Monaco, even having to deal with France, has a LOT more political clout than the Grand Duke of Luxembourg or Elizabeth II.

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It might not be a specific country or even a real one. This is fiction, after all.

She doesn't rule over any country - she's the heir, not the monarch. And her mother and father don't rule either - they only reign. In other words, her country is a constitutional monarchy rather than an absolute one. We know this with a fair degree of certainty because she describes her father as being involved in public relations.

The things that are said also seem to imply that her parents are still on the throne rather than in exile. At the height of the Cold War, her country has friendly relations with Britain and Italy and she speaks favourably about European union. We are specifically told that she is European. We can therefore conclude that she comes either from a constitutional monarchy in western Europe or from Greece (which is geographically in eastern Europe but is generally regarded as western, and was at least semi-democratic prior to the 1960s coup). We also know she isn't from any of the countries she's described as visiting nor from any of the republican countries. The Netherlands, Belgium, a Scandinavian country might be possible, or Liechtenstein, Luxemburg, or Monaco (assuming her parents weren't at any point specifically referred to as King and Queen, since Monaco and Liechtenstein are principalities, whilst Luxemburg is a grand duchy).

Incidentally we know that the story takes place at roughly the time that the film was made, because she visits war monuments on which dates in the 1940s are inscribed. The theme of European unity is also topical - the European Coal and Steel Community having been created in 1951-2.

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amsterdam was a city she visited on her tour so she can't be from the dutch royal fanily


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"Anya" is the Russian nickname for Anne. "Anya" is what you would call a child or someone who is a close friend. By having him call her "Anya", she was suggesting he was now her intimate friend.

Eastern Europe for sure - a slavic country.

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No Slavic country was monarchist in the '50s. True, they might have made one up, but fiction tends to be based on reality to a certain extent.

Royal families tend to marry into each other. Anya's family may have a Slavic connection, but that doesn't mean they reign over a Slavic country. As you say, it was a nickname rather than her real name.

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As Mr. Hennessy said: "A country which shall remain nameless." :P


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just make one up!!its fiction!!
bring on the empty horses !

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Yeah it's really important to this fictional story to know which country the princess rules over... besides the fact that a princess doesn't rule over a country- if she does she'd be a queen....

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She was Grand Princess of Pomerania and Livonia (in my mind).Definitely not Princess of Slovetzia...nor Genovia.

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"It's really important..."--why are you such a tight-*ss? People enjoy trying to figure out movie trivia like that--no one said it's "important." It's just fun. Calm down.

"a princess doesn't rule over a country..."

Let me introduce you to Monaco, which is not a kingdom but a principality. Therefore it is ruled by a prince or princess (currently Prince Albert), not a king.

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Let me introduce you to Monaco, which is not a kingdom but a principality. Therefore it is ruled by a prince or princess (currently Prince Albert), not a king.

Very true. However, she's a Royal - not a Serene - Highness, and I believe it's mentioned that her father is a king.

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It was a fictional kingdom or principality - perhaps meant to be a small, politically less significant one, something like Monaco or Luxembourg.

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I always figured it was the UK.

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nope. she visited london on her tour so she can't be from there


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I've thought about what country it might be before. You obviously have to eliminate all the countries it talks about her visiting in the opening. A microstate like Monaco would make sense.

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